2014 Talk Hawk Invitational
Las Positas College - Feb 1 | Status: Completed
Judge Philosophies
Chaz Kelly - Chico
Chelcy Gibbons - Pacific
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Hal Sanford - SRJC
<p><strong>Hal Sanford, Santa Rosa Junior College</strong></p> <p><strong>Short Version: </strong>I'm a stock issues judge. I'm not fond of Ks, although a summer at debate camp has made me receptive to them if run well. Thank you Joe Allen. Be nice to each other. I'll vote for the team who displays the preponderance of persuasion <strong>Long Version: </strong>Some debaters may want more. Here's more. Remember, being electronic, it's length does not link to damaging environmental impacts - no trees were killed in the creation of the philosophy. <strong>What is the most important criteria you consider when evaluating a debate? </strong>I look to stock issues, as argued on my flow. AFFIRMATIVE: Make sure you are topical. Reasonable definitions are accepted; they do not have to be the "best." Be sure your interpretation of the resolution gives ground to the negative.</p> <p>In policy rounds, show me that a post-plan world is better than one defended by the negative. Weigh impacts. Show your solution is workable and links to a better outcome than the negative option(s). </p> <p>In value rounds, show me how your value criteria are supported and illustrated through your examples. Provide reasons to prefer your values or criteria to those offered by the negative, if they dispute them.</p> <p>NEGATIVE: In policy, raise topicality only if it is a genuine issue. Too often negatives think they are being clever with "time suck" topicality arguments that fizzle in rebuttals and the negative loses because they did not devote 15 seconds more to weighing impacts or developing a disadvantage. Also, give me reasons why disadvantages actually make the plan net-detrimental; show me how your counter plan alone is better than plan or the plan plus C/P. Explain how plan does not solve the problem or is not workable.</p> <p>In value rounds, if you present counter values, explain how your criteria are superior to the affirmative's when in relation to the actual resolution. Weigh how the impacts to society (or part of it)are greater when supporting your arguments and value(s). Finally, if the resolution places one value over another, tell me equal status means a negative ballot: the affirmative must prove primacy of one over the other. </p> <p><strong>What are your expectations for proper decorum from the debaters? </strong>Be nice. Don't belittle your opponents by calling them, or their arguments, stupid, lame, or dumb. Remember, there is always somebody smarter and meaner than you. Do you want to generate the karma that comes with being a jerk? Really?</p> <p><strong>What strategies/positions/arguments are you predisposed to listen to and consider when you vote? </strong>Stock Issues:</p> <p>In policy debate, these are key for me. Affirmative has to win all four to win; negative can win one to win. Remember, stock issues answer the questions needed overcome the uncertainty and the risk of change to justify adopting the resolution. Affirmative must win all four to win round. Stock issues are:</p> <p>1. Motive/Harm, 2.Blame/Inherency, 3.Plan, and 4. Solvency/Advantage(s) justify an affirmative ballot. </p> <p>Topicality: Be sure terms are reasonably defined, metaphors are accurately applied, and mere time-suck topicality arguments aren't argued by negatives. You've got better things to do. Still, affirmatives, me buying a reverse voting issue on topicality is very unlikely. Even with a opp. drop, I'll really resist. </p> <p>Counter plans: It should be non-topical; otherwise, there are two affirmatives in the round and I'll just sign the ballot for the one actually listed as affirmative. They also should be competitive, meaning there is a genuine choice between the plan and counter plan. Show competition with mutual exclusivity or a reason doing both is bad.</p> <p>Critiques: Given equal teams, the critique most likely will lose. I have voted for critiques, but that is when a weaker team does not adequately deal with the critique. I dislike generic critiques that don't relate to the resolution, the opponent's arguments, or reality. Good luck selling me that K whose central premise is that "we should all hurry up and die because life's greatest gift is death." Really? I vote on the flow, but I won't turn off my brain. Still, if your names are Robert or Sterling, I might buy it. They're eloquentus-maximus. </p> <p>Weighing: Explain why you win. Weigh impacts. Apply your examples to concepts like magnitude, probability, timeframe and show how the opponent loses, how opposing arguments are less compelling.</p> <p><strong>How do you evaluate speed, jargon, and technical elements? </strong> </p> <p>SPEED - NFA-LD: This is not supposed to be an audition for a speed-freak auctioneer. Rules state spread debate is antithetical to the event. That said, I heard about 30 rounds last year, including some top 4-year debaters. Only one has been "too fast" for the event, but an eloquently argued and rightly applied speed challenge by an opponent might find me a receptive audience. After all, "speed is antithetical to the event", right? If I or the opponent call "clear," heed that request.</p> <p>SPEED - PARLI: Be sure you really have quality arguments that necessitate speed to get them all in during the allotted time. Be clear, organized, and persuasive. I'll stop you if you're going too fast and I'll be receptive to an opposing team demanding you slow down also.</p> <p>JARGON: Don't just sling jargon around and assume I'll do all the analysis and explanation to fully impact the concept. For example, if an affirmative thinks he or she can simply say "perm" and destroy the counter plan as a reason to vote negative, he or she is mistaken. Say something like: "Perm. Do both the plan and the counter plan. If there is a permutation where both the plan and the counter plan can co-exist without disadvantage, the counter plan is not a reason to reject the affirmative plan. Vote affirmative unless the counter plan alone is net beneficial when compared with both the affirmative plan alone or the plan and counter plan together."</p> <p>TECHNICAL ELEMENTS: Please be organized. I won't time roadmaps, but they are appreciated. I do permit some conversation between partners during the round, but issues must be vocalized by the recognized speaker to count. I will not consider arguments made after time elapses. If you really need to sit while speaking, I'm fine with that.</p>
Jason Ames - Chabot
<p>I believe it is up to you to make strategic decisions on how you perform in round. Thus, you tell me what I’m supposed to judge on. I believe the round is yours to define and I’ll vote on any argument (T’s, K’s, CP’s, whatever) that is reasoned out, impacted, and persuasive. If you blip it, I won’t buy it just because it’s on the flow. Argumentation should be organized to enable me to flow your arguments better.</p> <p>Other things:</p> <p>I prefer that students adhere to the topic given, but I am also open and able to judge critical arguments from both sides of the resolution if applicable and necessary.</p> <p>I’m not a huge fan of speed in either NFA or Parli. I do try to adapt as best as possible, however, but I also don’t want to be a “flow machine”. I want to be able to hear and process your arguments so that I can make a good decision. Hit your tags, explain your analysis and we’ll be all good. If you’re going too fast for me, I’ll clear you and if you do that we’ll all be happy at the end of the round.</p> <p>In NFA, I believe that spreading is antithetical to the event. However, I don’t believe you need to be “conversational speed” either. Feel free to talk a bit quickly (as us debaters do). Hit your tags, explain your analysis and we’ll be all good. If you’re going too fast for me, I’ll clear you and if you do that we’ll all be happy at the end of the round. If you don’t, you’ll probably be unhappy.</p> <p>Also in NFA, if at least the tags and sources of your 1AC are not in a public space that is available to all debaters after round 2 of the tournament, I will become more prone to buy predictability arguments from the Negative side and more willing to vote on T in favor of the Neg. (FYI Neg, this doesn’t mean it’s a lock for you if they don’t … but the odds are ever in your favor).</p> <p>Here is the website for you to post your case:</p> <p><a href="http://nfaldfilesharing.wikispaces.com/">http://nfaldfilesharing.wikispaces.com/</a></p> <p>Your rebuttals should be a time for you to advocate your positions. Enjoy!</p>
Jeff Archibald - Mt SAC
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Jeff Toney - Pacific
John Hanecak - DVC
<p>I look forward to a debate which is resolutional, provides ground for both sides, is incredibly well signposted, has plenty of clash, is delivered for a universal audience, contains some taseful wit, and is, in the end, the most persuasive. Like the 'ole 1960/1970's slogan said, "speed kills" when it comes to delivery. A sound final rebuttal also goes a long way. I enjoy policy, fact or value debates and am ready to listen to arguments as to how the language prefers one over the other. In all cases, don't forget the clash.<br /> </p>
Josh Harzman - Pacific
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Kay Harrison - Ohlone College
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Kyle Johnson - SFSU
<p><strong>What is the most important criteria you consider when evaluating a debate?</strong></p> <p>I prefer to vote for the team that presents the most logical, well-reasoned, organized, and creative arguments regardless of my own personal view of the resolution. Debaters should provide/contest criteria for evaluating the round. Highlight key voting issues during your final speech.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>What are your expectations for proper decorum from the debaters?</strong></p> <p>Be respectful of your opponents at all times but please let your personality come through. Be a little snarky but try not to make it personal. (It takes a small person to make someone sound foolish but a real scholar to make the same person sound intelligent.) Partner communication is acceptable, heckling is acceptable but each one of us engaged in this debate deserves the others full and undivided attention.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>What strategies/positions/arguments are you predisposed to listen to and consider when you vote?</strong></p> <p>Don’t make stuff up, if you aren’t certain, qualify your statement. I give such statements more credibility than false information. Convince me of how I should evaluate the debate. The team that wins my ballot will have a logical, criteria based argument when compared to the opposing side. When well warranted, I can vote on well-structured and clearly explained topicality arguments and, in Open only, kritiks. Debaters should be specific in their argumentation and provide clear voting issues in rebuttal speeches.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>How do you evaluate speed, jargon, and technical elements?</strong></p> <p>This activity is based in Communication, so I would hope that all parties, including any spectators would be able to access your arguments through your effective oral delivery; in other words speak to be heard not merely to hear yourself. Speed is appropriate if the previous condition is met and I can still flow your argument. (Hint, if I stop flowing you have either lost me completely or you have won the debate and I’m relaxing.) Read my very obvious non-verbal signals. Delivery can be accelerated beyond a conversational rate, but my roots are in Interpretive Events and I value articulation, emphasis, inflections, and pauses. Delivery style may affect speaker points but will not factor into a decision. Points of order can be called when rules are broken; I will stop time and hear briefly from the opposing side before ruling.</p>
Lelah Smick - DVC
Lindsey Ayotte - SFSU
Mark Stephens - Chabot
Mary Anne Sunseri - San Jose State
<p>I like clear arguments and good, solid, logical thought processes. I try my very best to leave my biases out of the round and will likely vote on just what happens in the round. I will not vote on issues not presented by the students. I appreciate good delivery, the use of wit and well mannered competitors. I like all forms of argumentation as long as they are presented clearly, warranted and supported logically. I expect courtesy and respect from and for all in the round (competitors, gallery, etc). It is not okay to speak loudly to your teammate while the other team has the floor; nor is it okay to speak for your teammate.</p>
Michael Miller - Glendale, CA
<p><strong>1/15/14 ... </strong></p> <p><strong>PLEASE NOTE: The original Post entered on the above date has been removed - on a voluntary basis, and by me, acting alone - for the reasons set forth below. If you read my original Post, please understand that although I very much regret any "problems" it might have created, and I have removed it out of respect for the feelings of others, I stand by it. </strong></p> <p><strong>Whether you read my original Post or not, I am ALWAYS eager to discuss Debate theory, and/or my "Judging Philosophy," and/or anything "Debate-related" - in excruciating (and some would say extremely BORING) detail - with anyone interested. So please feel free to call me [818-952-05213] or email me [docdebate88@yahoo.com] and I will gladly answer any/all questions, explain any/all ambiguities in my previous Post, give careful consideration to any concerns/criticisms/complaints you might have about what I previously wrote, and - in short - do whatever I can to make our future relationship in Debate (if any) pleasant, educational, and enjoyable. :) - MHM</strong></p> <p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p> <p><strong>*** JUDGING PHILOSOPHY ADDENDUM - 2/5/14 ... ***</strong></p> <p>I have most recently been informed, by persons for whom I have the greatest personal affection and professional respect, that my previous Post of 1/15/14 re: my "Judge Philosophy" was offensive and/or unacceptable to a significant number of the people who read it. I was - quite literally - shocked, saddened, and totally dumbfounded to learn that some people reading my original Post apparently believe that I am a "Sexist," and/or "filled with hate" and/or "exclusionary," and/or even violent - "like the Unabomber." So let me try to put people's minds at ease... if that's possible.</p> <p>A. I apologize most sincerely to anyone/everyone (without asserting any qualifications or offering any excuses) whom I offended.</p> <p>B. I intended no disrespect/offense to anyone.</p> <p>C. In my previous Post, I made what I earnestly believed to be a full, fair, and complete disclosure of my views re: Judging a (tournament) Debate. I told the truth about myself - no more, no less. </p> <p>D. I am who I am. Since the Fall of 1966 and to date, for almost 50 years, what I have done in Debate, I have always done in good faith, and with malice (and mallets) towards none. What I believe about Debate is what I believe. </p> <p>E. To the best of my knowledge, information, and sincere belief: (1) I am not a sexist. (2) I don't hate anyone connected with Debate in any way... at least, not that I know of. (3) I don't want to "exclude" anybody in Debate from anything, and don't know how I could "exclude" anybody in Debate from anything - even if I wanted to.</p> <p>Last of all, (4) I am essentially a placid, gentle, and fun-loving person by nature (aged 65+ years), although I will defend myself and those I love if I (and especially they) were attacked. I do not live in a secluded shack in the wilderness. I have never owned or possessed a firearm. I wouldn't have the first idea about how to make an IED (although I guess Seikel & I did "bomb out" in the 1969 NDT Final Round). I do own some rather attractive "Hoodies," but I don't even have a pair of sunglasses. And, because I have, in the past, worked in the immediate presence (touching distance) of several Presidents of the United States and/or nominees for the Presidency, I have been thoroughly checked out by both the FBI and the Secret Service and am not thought to be violent or "hate-filled."</p> <p>F. In summation: If who I am, how I live my life, and what I believe are no longer "acceptable" in the Debate Community, then that is my fate. As far as I am concerned, "Debate" owes me nothing. I owe "Debate" everything. So now it would appear that it is up to "Debate" to express its "Judging Philosophy" about me. Whatever decision "Debate" makes - I accept it... and with love and gratitude; but I am not going to disavow the lessons I have learned and deeply-held convictions, values and opinions about Debate that I have developed over a lifetime simply because other people may disagree with me. </p> <p><strong>WITH PARTICULAR RESPECT TO MY "JUDGING PHILOSOPHY," HERE IS MY UP-TO-DATE, REVISED - AND I HOPE NON-CONTROVERSIAL- "READERS DIGEST" VERSION:</strong></p> <p>1. I follow the NPDA Rules, the NFA-LD Rules, and any other written rules to the letter. I always try to do this to the best of my ability, but consistent with reason, human compassion, and basic common sense.</p> <p>2. I believe that Topicality is a RULE, jurisdictional in nature, like a bounary line in sports; it is not, IMHO, a flexible, arguable "voting issue." </p> <p>If the Negative/Opposition team/debater persuades me that a Plan violates the Topic, I will vote Negative. If an Affirmative/Government team/debater persuades me that a Counterplan is Topical, I will - absent unforseen circumstances (which occur in almost every debate) - vote Affirmative. However, I am not an activist Judge on T; in other words, I will vote on T based ONLY upon what the debaters argue in the round - not based upon why I believe or infer.</p> <p>3. I will vote Negative if the Affirmative/Government/Proposition blatantly fails to set forth a prima facie case before the conclusion of the Constructive Speeches. (I have judged literally thousands of debates since 1967, and I can think of only 2 in which, IMO, the Affirmative failed to do so.)</p> <p>4. I believe that "spreading," and "K's," and "Performances" are all inferior forms of debating, in that, by definition, they are intended to avoid an in-depth analysis/presentation of the facts about the topic area, to avoid genuine clash between competing intellects, and to win the Debate by circumventing the merits of an argument or arguments; however, I will vote for teams/debaters who employ such tactics - depending upon the unique circumstances of each round.</p> <p>4. I believe the basics skills of being a good debater are:</p> <p>A. Look good (use Aethos);</p> <p>B. Sound good (use Pathos);</p> <p>C. Make sense (use Logos); and,</p> <p>D. Be courteous and respectful to eveyone involved in the process (no Bozos).</p> <p> </p> <p>I would hope that this clears up any problems, misapprehensions, misconceptions, etc. that I may have created via my previous - and obviously-inartful - Post. Once again, please contact me if you would like any furtrher explanation, clarification, etc.</p> <p> </p> <p>Thanks to all - and GOOD LUCK, EVEYONE!</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>
Nathan Steele - CCSF
<p>What is the most important criteria you consider when evaluating a debate? I aim to subdue my bias and objectively adjudicate rounds, voting for the team that presents the most logical, well-reasoned, organized, creative, clever and dynamic arguments. Debaters should provide/contest criteria for evaluating the round. Highlight key voting issues during your final speech.</p> <p>What are your expectations for proper decorum from the debaters? Be respectful of your opponents at all times. You can be a little snarky but do not make it personal. Attack the arguments and behaviors in the round rather than the people. Avoid obnoxious nonverbal-behaviors. Partner communication is acceptable, but don't parrot or puppet your partner. Heckling is acceptable but everyone (partner and opponents) should minimize interruptions to the debate and the flow of the speaker. I will listen to you throughout the round, and I hope you will continue to listen to each other.</p> <p>What strategies/positions/arguments are you predisposed to listen to and consider when you vote? Don't lie. Convince me of how I should evaluate the debate and what the affirmative or negative team must do to win my ballot. I'm capable of believing any well-reasoned and supported claim, but I favor cogent, criteria-based arguments that are ultimately weighed against other issues in the round. When well warranted, I can vote on well-structured and clearly explained topicality arguments and kritiks. Debaters should be specific in their argumentation and provide clear voting issues in rebuttal speeches.</p> <p>How do you evaluate speed, jargon, and technical elements? The debate should be accessible to your opponents and judge(s). Delivery can be accelerated beyond a conversational rate, but I value clear articulation, emphasis, inflections, pauses, and vocal variety. Delivery style may affect speaker points but will not factor into a decision. Points of order can be called when rules are broken; I will stop time and hear briefly from the opposing side before ruling.</p>
Nick Chivers - Ohlone College
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Oona Hatton - San Jose State
<p>I give my vote to the argument made with greater clarity and concision. Evidence should be relevant and persuasive but not redundant. </p> <p> </p> <p>When a match is close, I favor the following:</p> <p> </p> <p>- Innovation. I always appreciate original and creative thought, provided it is within the realm of practicability.</p> <p>- Teamwork. I enjoy seeing a debate team whose members collaborate well, and who contribute equally to the team's success.</p> <p>- Depth of knowledge. As debaters, it is your job to be conversant with current issues and events. Your engagement with the topic should demonstrate your grasp of its greater implications in a national or global context.</p>
Robert Hawkins - CCSF
Roger Willis - Mt SAC
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Sage Russo - SFSU
Scott Laczko - Chico
<p>Copied over from tabroom. My basic beliefs about debate have not changed. for LD ... rules are debatable the more like policy debate you make the round for me the happier i'll be</p> <p>Updated 10/29/13</p> <p> I'm still figuring out my paradigm and it is an every changing process as this is my first year out but, below ar my basic beliefs about debate. With that being said i'm also trying to determine what i look for when giving speaker points.</p> <p>To get a better understanding of what my values are or what i look for I should start by saying that I have been heavily influenced by Sue and Jason Peterson and Theresa Perry. If my philo is confusing i suggest you look there for additional information. I debated for 3 years at CSU Chico</p> <p>the reason you read the philo- </p> <p>Framework and non topical aff's - i believe that you should affirm the resolution. I love a good framework debate specifically when it is well carded. the community bashes on the clash of civs debate but as a competitor they were probably my favorite to have. I think that the framework should have it's own built in topicality but additionally that a different topicality is worth the time investment. topical version of the aff is very compelling to me. </p> <p>stolen from Sue's philo: if you are going to "use the topic as a starting point" on the affirmative instead of actually defending implementation of your plan, I'm probably not going to be your favorite judge. </p> <p>If that is unclear i'll state it another way. If you are not even loosly related to the topic you should not pref me. I believe that the debate should at least in the same hemisphere as the resolution. I believe it at the most basic level the resolution is the commonality that binds the activity together.</p> <p>K's- holy batman if your link is solely based off a link of omission you are running an uphill battle before me. I think links of omission debates are the largest waste of time it is impossible to talk about all of these problems in the world in a 9 minute speech. Linking to the status quo is also problematic for me links should come off what the aff does not to what the squo is. alternative solvency needs to be explained so that it makes sense, I am not familiar with the liturture base. Why is rejecting the plan necessary what does it actually do?</p> <p>T's - go for it i'm down. i default to competing interpretation and don't like to vote on potential abuse</p> <p>C/p and DA: always a dependable 2nr decision. I really enjoy listening to nuanced DA's. c/p with a solid internal net benefit are also underutilized.</p> <p>case: 2a's hate talking about their case in the 2ac. a good 1nc strategy will have a large case debate ready to ruin some days. </p> <p>theory: should always be where it applies. however i'm pretty persuaded by reject the argument and not the team</p>
Sherry Diestler - CCC
Sue Peterson - Chico
<p>I primarily participated in CEDA/NDT debate as a competitor and coach for the last 20 years. We made the move to NFA-LD four years ago and I haven’t looked back. I consider myself to be open to most decision-making criteria, but I default to an offense/defense, cost-benefit calculus minus further instructions. </p> <p>I do not enjoy adjudicating performance debate. I like for affirmatives to have a plan text that clearly identifies the government action that is being advocated and then solvency advocates for that government action. </p> <p>I like when the debaters clearly identify the key voting issues from their perspective and do impact analysis in those areas. Simply said, I like for the rebuttals to “write my ballot” for me. </p> <p>The best rounds are those with good evidence AND good analysis. The worst rounds are those with neither of those things. I love a good topicality debate that gets to the heart of predictable, educational and fair ground on the topic. I also like good counterplan/disad debates that clearly identify the competitive points and focus the debate on that competition. I am okay with theory debates, but I think they need to have a real purpose in the round (read – I don’t like cheap shot theory arguments as voting issues) and they need to have clear warrants for why I should vote on the them other than “It’s abusive”. I have no problem with criticisms, but I feel like the limited speech time and having only two speeches usually results in an underdeveloped argument. So, if you run one, be sure to consider that and try to develop it as an argument, not just repeat taglines. </p> <p>Overall, be nice to one another, have fun, but most important, be smart!</p> <p>Because NFA-LD has an actual “rule” relating to speed of delivery, we should at least give that rule a “nod” in rounds. So, just because I am fine with you talking fast in a debate, if your opponent or other judges on a panel feel that speed is a hindrance to their performance and states that out loud before the round, we should honor it. My least favorite thing is listening to speed critiques or requests for others to slow down from someone who is talking relatively quickly – don’t be hypocritical. I also think that clarity is a key component in these discussions. Some people can talk fast and be totally understandable. Others, not so much.</p> <p><strong>Arguments that probably won't go well for you in front of me: </strong>Performance, debate bad arguments and reverse voting issues on topicality. Underdeveloped theory arguments. Critiques that are contradicted by other arguments you are making in the round without some justification for that contradiction. </p>
Tiffany Rogers - Chabot
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Tony Bernacchi - DVC
<p>Please run whatever you want! I judge based on what happened in the round, but I am not going to waste a bunch of my time defining what should be run in front of me. So bring it!</p> <p>I was a policy debater for 4 years so I am going to be able to keep up with your 'speed'........HOWEVER, I dont really like that parli-debaters spread as if they are in policy debate. If spreading is a core strategy of yours you should probably add evidence to your speech and join CEDA. Oh.......impact analysis/voting calculous is appreciated.</p> <p>Finally, be respectful of one anotherin the round. If you are overly rude, consistently interupting your partner, or try to influence my decision with obnoxious facial expressions and non-verbals......DON'T! a) it wont work, and b) it will reflect in your speaker points.(negatively)</p> <p>debate well</p>