Judge Philosophies

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Adam Cassidy - Mesa


Al Arviso - EPCC

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Allison Niebauer - Wheaton

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I have coached parli for Wheaton for 3 years. &nbsp;I debated for Wheaton for four years and did policy in high school. &nbsp;I will vote on the arguments made in round as much as possible. &nbsp;I don&#39;t have any specific preferences about what kinds of positions you run or any particular thresholds on arguments. &nbsp;I value clean, engaging, well-warranted and well-impacted debate with a clear weighing calculus. &nbsp;I don&#39;t mind speed as long as it enhances your communication efforts and doesn&#39;t make you a worse communicator. &nbsp;Feel free to ask questions before the rounds. &nbsp;I prefer debaters to stand when they give their speeches.</p>


Andrew Grimalda - Concordia-CA

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Andrew Schalin - PLNU


Annie Berry - Azusa

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Antonio De La Garza - Utah


April Griffin - IVC

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Ariella Thornhill - Reed


Armando Castellanos - USAFA


Ashley Nuckels-Cuevas - Pacific

<p> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves>false</w:TrackMoves> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing>18 pt</w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing> <w:DrawingGridVerticalSpacing>18 pt</w:DrawingGridVerticalSpacing> <w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery>0</w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery> <w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery>0</w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:DontAutofitConstrainedTables/> <w:DontVertAlignInTxbx/> </w:Compatibility> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="276"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0in; mso-para-margin-right:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--><!--StartFragment--></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%">Ashley Nuckels Cuevas (University of the Pacific)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%">Experience: I debated for Palomar College and Point Loma Nazarene University. I have coached high school policy debate and this is my second year coaching for UOP. I am earning my Master&rsquo;s Degree in Political Communications with an emphasis on Feminist Criticism and Rhetorical Criticism.&nbsp; Overall I think that debate is a game of strategy so go for what you think is important but let me know why it deserves my ballot.&nbsp; I enjoy both Econ debates and Tix (both US and abroad).<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%">Theory/ Procedurals: I default to an abuse paradigm but am fine with competing interpretations. I am fine with you using theory to get access to DA&rsquo;s and other arguments or just collapsing to theory in the block.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%">K: I love the K but I also love on case debate. I do not like reject only alt&rsquo;s but I have voted on them. <a name="_GoBack"></a><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%">I am fine with speed but I do not think that speed without clarity and substance is necessary or advantageous to the speaker or the event. Overall, be polite and respectful to each other and the event. Good luck and have fun.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <!--EndFragment-->


Ashley Graham - El Camino

<p>This is probably the most important thing to know about me: I believe that debate is a game.&nbsp; Therefore everything to me is viewed as a way to win.&nbsp; While education can happen and critical thinking can happen, ultimately you want the ballot otherwise there&rsquo;s no impact to how I judge debate rounds.</p> <p>Overall a clear framework and specifically a way to evaluate the round are going to be important in finding a way to evaluate the arguments in round.&nbsp; That being said, impacts win rounds. Structure and signposting are also extremely important.&nbsp;</p> <p>On Topicality: this is a voter for me; however it can also be used as a tool to secure ground or for competing interpretations.&nbsp; This is up to you as whether or not going for the T in the LOR is the best choice. I don&#39;t dislike T debates just multiple poorly warranted T rounds.&nbsp;</p> <p>On Kritiks: I will vote on the K as long as there is some type of legitimate alternative/solvency mechanism.&nbsp; I have voted on the K and have no unique pre-disposition against them.</p> <p>On Speed: Overall speed is okay.&nbsp; Usually I find that an increase in speed leads to a decrease in clarity.&nbsp; Most times speed is unnecessary but again it is your strategic choice.</p> <p>On NFA-LD: here the rules are much more explicit and I will vote where the rules tell me to.&nbsp; This does not mean I will outright intervene, but it does mean that I will have a higher propensity to vote on&nbsp;procedurals&nbsp;that are run when the rules are violated.&nbsp; For example if there is a position about speed, then the chance that I will vote on it is high unless there&rsquo;s some brilliant response.&nbsp;</p>


Bill Neesen - Long Beach

<p>Bill Neesen<br /> Cal. State Long Beach/IVC<br /> <br /> Years Judging Debate: 22+<br /> Years Competed in Debate: 7<br /> What School Competed at: Millard South/ OCC/CSU- Fullerton</p> <p>Section 1: General Information</p> <p>I think that debate is up to the debaters in the round. They the privilege of defining what debate should look like, but also the responsibility to defend that interpretation. I like Case debate (this is a lost great art), CP, DA, K and performance (but I really hate performance that is bad). I will listen to and vote on theory but you have to make it clear. Other than that I would say that debate is a game and I always play games to win and would expect you to do similar things. Also while I do not think that any judge can be truly non-biased and not intervene at all, I think intervention is a bad thing that the judge has a duty to try to resist as much as possible.</p> <p>Other things to think about: some people think that I am a hack for the K. While I have coached many great K people (or performance) I was a CP/DA/Case debater. This really does mean I love to see it all. I am a very fast flow.</p> <p>I hate lying in debate and would suggest for people to try to get facts straight. I do not vote against people who lie or make bad arguments (I leave it up to the other team to do that) but your points will reflect it.</p> <p>Well I do not mind critical arguments and think everyone can run them no matter the side. I treat them the same as every other argument. If they have a framework argument I will start there and see how I should frame the debate (and do not think I default crazy, many great debaters have won policy making in front of me). Once I decide how to frame the debate than I use it to evaluate the debate.&nbsp; As far as contradictory K positions with counterplans I do not like it if the K works on a level of discourse as a reason to vote for the k. I have a hard time with the whole language is most important and what we learn in debate is best, followed up by someone using bad rhetoric and saying the other team should not use it. I do not just vote for it but I do find the whole you contradicted it so either you lose or the K goes away persuasive.</p> <p>I would give some warning before I talk about Crazy in debate. 1. There is a winner and a looser in each debate, just because you were doing something crazy does not mean you get to avoid it. I have very few things I get to do and I enjoy the power (I give winner, looser, and speaker points). 2. Bad performance is not only horrible to watch (which kills speaker points) it also is easy to turn if the other team know performance or makes simple logical arguments. This means that it needs to be prepped and practiced it is not normally something that just comes to you in prep and if it does you might want to resist it because they go bad on the fly. Having said all of it I have seen some amazing performances over the years and it was cool when they were good.</p> <p>I have an old school approach to T. I do not mind it and while it does not have to have in round abuse it is always better to have it.&nbsp; To vote on it you need to win that there is a reason why what they did is bad and in the round the best thing would be to drop the AFF. As far as competing interps go I have a little rant. I do not know what else there is but competing interp. I mean both sides have their interp and the standards they use to justify it. In the end to win T you would have to prove your interp is the better one (hence the winning interp from the competing interps) and that topicality is a voting issue. I have no idea why people say t is about competing interps (because it always has been and will be) and I have no idea what that argument gets them in the round.</p> <p>I love counterplans. I have heard very few counterplans that are not pics (and they were really really bad). Topical counterplans are the best for debate and policy making because they are honestly the heart of most of the literature. &nbsp;If you plan on kicking the CP I would put the status in the cp because otherwise you run the risk of the PMR getting angry about the kick and it is always messy for the judge at that point. Perms need to have text unless it is do both (because the text is literally both). Types of competition are interesting text seems a little weaker than functional but both can be good and lame too. I want to remind you here that even though I have told you about what I think about theory arguments I still vote on them all the time. &nbsp;Even the silly argument that you only get one perm and it is always advocated (Yes cheesewright I am insulting you :P). I also think conditionality bad is a smart argument even if I don&rsquo;t always get to vote for it.</p> <p>MPJ:</p> <p>My recommendation for teams is to pref me based on the people they are debating that weekend. I see people who are not fast or cannot handle the K (or defend policymaking) well and that is sad because they ranked me an A. You should rank me biased on what is most likely to win you rounds and I would never be offended by this.</p>


Billy Turner - X Hired

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Brandan Whearty - Palomar


Brian Boyle - Notre Dame

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Brianna Nishie - Vanguard

<h2>Brianna Nishie &ndash; Vanguard University</h2> <p><strong>Question 1 : Background of the critic</strong><br /> While my high school did not have a debate program, I spent my high school weekends at PSCFA tournaments watching rounds of debate.&nbsp; Upon entering Vanguard University I immediately joined the speech and debate program.&nbsp; I was a modestly successful debater who spent much of her Junior and Senior years as a competitor working as a peer coach.&nbsp; I graduated VU in May, 2011 and worked the last 2 years as the assistant coach at Vanguard. &nbsp;I currently work in social media as well as a speaking coach for professionals while continuing to help the forensics community with coaching/judging. &nbsp;&nbsp; My academic background is in communication with an emphasis in PR.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I was trained by what can best be described as an &ldquo;old school&rdquo; parli coach &ndash; and I have several of her fundamental traits in my own philosophy.&nbsp; I have, however, more tolerance for some technical arguments than my former coach may have had.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I do not look at debate as a game.&nbsp; The fundamental reason for this is that there are too few &ldquo;rules&rdquo; and the &ldquo;rules&rdquo; get to be &ldquo;interpreted&rdquo; for each team&hellip;.this to me is problematic in terms of fairness.&nbsp; I do feel that parliamentary debate has its foundation in the ideal of generally educated people being able to present an argument on a topic with limited preparation time</p> <p><br /> <strong>Question 2 : Approach of the critic to decision-making (for example, adherence to the trichotomy, stock-issues, policymaker, tabula rasa, etc.)</strong></p> <p><strong>As a former debater who lost more rounds than I can count because I ran value on what I considered a value resolution but lost to a judge who thought that the only &ldquo;true&rdquo; weighing criteria was through a policy lens, I have to say I&rsquo;m a bit sympathetic to trichot arguments &ndash; assuming there is an adequate justification for the argument.</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>I believe that there are certain stock issues that should be argued; if nobody talks about definitions or a plan or who enforces the plan (for example) then how do I know if the plan is a good idea?&nbsp; Tell me where I&rsquo;m voting and why.</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Sometimes resolutions do call for debaters to act as policymakers &ndash; in this case one should clearly delineate what the harms are, how the harms are to be solved and what the advantages of solving the plan are&hellip;.It might help you to know that my political leanings are probably more conservative than the average judge on the circuit when making a plan&hellip;</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Finally, in the age of group preparation &ndash; make sure you understand any specialized case that was constructed in prep time.&nbsp; Please remember that this is parliamentary debate, don&rsquo;t just read your plan text and PLEASE don&rsquo;t toss an extra copy to the opposition so you feel exempt from the obligation to explain your case &ndash; this is not CEDA.</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><br /> <strong>Question 3 : Relative importance of presentation/communication skills to the critic in decision-making</strong><br /> &nbsp;</p> <p>Parliamentary debate was founded in response to what had become a loathsome communication event &ndash; CEDA &ndash; and it seems that a lot of the reasons people left CEDA (speed, spread, reading evidence with no audience connection whatsoever) are seeping into Parliamentary &ndash; that doesn&rsquo;t make me happy about it.&nbsp; Speak plainly and clearly &ndash; sometimes you have to go fast &ndash; ok, but if you go too fast so that the communication has left the event &ndash; don&rsquo;t expect high speaker points and if I can&rsquo;t keep up don&rsquo;t expect to win.&nbsp; This doesn&rsquo;t mean speak to me like I&rsquo;m an idiot.&nbsp; Be persuasive.&nbsp; You can be a horrible speaker making fabulous arguments and win &ndash; you can be an incredibly persuasive, articulate speaker making horrible arguments and you can lose.&nbsp; Moderation is a good thing here.</p> <p><br /> <strong>Question 4 : Relative importance of on-case argumentation to the critic in decision-making</strong><br /> On-case argumentation is important &ndash; if you make it important.&nbsp; Dropped arguments can also be very important in terms of what your opposition decides to do with them.&nbsp; Not every argument needs a ton of attention &ndash; so use your time wisely.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><br /> <strong>Question 5 : Concerns about any particular argumentative approach/arguments which the critic rarely/never will vote for</strong><br /> &nbsp;</p> <p>I am not a fan of critiques &ndash; I feel this is more an issue of the way they have been flung around as largely non-linked disadvantages.&nbsp; I could probably vote on a K if it was very well articulated &ndash; but that&rsquo;s your job.&nbsp; I&rsquo;m not a big fan on procedurals &ndash; again, a personal bias &ndash; but procedurals are an available tool &ndash; so if they are necessary &ndash; use them, but explain why I should weigh them in the round.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>One more thing &ndash; each speaker is given a set amount of time to speak &ndash; don&rsquo;t talk over your partner during their time &ndash; I&rsquo;m only flowing the person who&rsquo;s turn it is to speak &ndash; so, make each other look strong and credible by giving your own speech.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I am not a fan of claims that aff did not have to fufill primae facia because poi&#39;s &quot;check back&quot;. Opps ability to ask questions is not a responsibility to make sure Aff is doing their job.<br /> &nbsp;</p> <p>Be personable, have some fun, and be brilliant.&nbsp; Tell me what matters in the round.&nbsp; Tell me what wins.&nbsp; Give me every opportunity to give you the ballot.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <hr /> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Caitlyn Burford - NAU

<p>Burford, Caitlyn (Northern Arizona University)</p> <p>Background: This is my eigth year judging and coaching debate, and I spent four years competing in college. Please feel free to ask me specific questions before the round.</p> <p>Specific Inquiries 1. General Overview</p> <p>I think debate is a unique competitive forum to discuss issues within our rhetoric about the state, power, race, gender, etc. in a space that allows us to rethink and critically assess topics. This can come through a net benefit analysis of a proposed government plan, through a micro political action or statement, through a critique, or through some other newfangled performance you come up with. In that sense, I think debate is a rhetorical act that can be used creatively and effectively. Running a policy case about passing a piece of legislation has just as many implications about state power and authority as a critique of the state. The differences between the two types just have to do with what the debaters choose to discuss in each particular round. There are critical implications to every speech act. Affirmative cases, topicalities, procedurals, kritiks, and performances can all be critically analyzed if the teams take the debate there. Thus, framework is imperative. I&rsquo;ll get there shortly. You can run whatever you want as long as a) you have a theoretical justification for running the position, and b) you realize that it is still a competitive debate round so I need a reason to vote for something at some point. (a.k.a Give me a framework with your poetry!).</p> <p>2. Framework This often ends up as the most important part of a lot of debates. If both teams are running with net benefits, great, but I still think there is area to weigh those arguments differently based on timeframe, magnitude, structural weight, etc. This kind of framework can make your rebuttal a breeze. In a debate that goes beyond a net benefits paradigm, your framework is key to how I interpret different impacts in the round. Choose your frameworks strategically and use them to your advantage. If the whole point of your framework is to ignore the case debate, then ignore the case debate. If the whole point of your framework is to leverage your case against the critique, then tell me what the rhetorical implications (different than impacts) are to your case.</p> <p>3. Theory It&rsquo;s important to note that theory positions are impact debates, too. Procedural positions, topicalities, etc. are only important to the debate if you have impacts built into them. If a topicality is just about &ldquo;fairness&rdquo; or &ldquo;abuse&rdquo; without any articulation as to what that does, most of these debates become a &ldquo;wash&rdquo;. So, view your theory as a mini-debate, with a framework, argument, and impacts built into it.</p> <p>4. Counterplan Debate This is your game. I don&rsquo;t think I have a concrete position as to how I feel about PICS, or intrinsicness, or textual/functional competition. That is for you to set up and decide in the debate. I have voted on PICS good, PICS bad, so on and so forth. That means that it all has to do with the context of the specific debate. Just make your arguments and warrant them well. Unless I am told otherwise, I will assume the CP is unconditional and my role as a judge it to vote for the best advocacy.</p> <p>5. Round Evaluation Again, framework is important. Procedurals, case debate, and critique debate should all have frameworks that prioritize what I look at in the round. In the rare case that neither team does any framing on any of the arguments, I will typically look at the critique, then topicality/procedurals, then the case. Because the critique usually has to do with some sort of education affecting everyone in the room, it will usually come before a procedural that affects the &ldquo;fairness&rdquo; of one team. (Again, this is only absent any sort of weighing mechanism for any of the arguments.) If there is a topicality/procedural run without any voters, I won&rsquo;t put them in for you and it will be weighed against the case. I will not weigh the case against the critique unless I am told how and why it can be weighed equally. A concrete argument is always going to have a bit more weight than an abstract argument. A clear story with a calculated impact will probably outweigh an uncalculated potential impact. (i.e. &ldquo;15,000 without food&rdquo; vs. a &ldquo;decrease in the quality of life&rdquo;). But, if you calculate them out and do the work for me, awesome. If I have to weigh two vague abstract arguments against each other, i.e. loss of identity vs. loss of freedom, then I will probably revert to the more warranted link story if I must. 6. Speed, Answering Questions, and Other General Performance Things I&rsquo;m fine with speed. Don&rsquo;t use it as a tool to exclude your other competitors if they ask you to slow down, please do. I don&rsquo;t really care about how many questions you answer if any, but if you don&rsquo;t then you are probably making yourself more vulnerable to arguments about shifts or the specificities of &ldquo;normal means&rdquo;. It&rsquo;s your round! Do what you want!</p>


Carl Simmons - Biola

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Dan Goldzband - X Hired

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Danielle Allen - Concordia-CA

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Danny Cantrell - Mt SAC

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Darrell Farmer - UNL

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Darren Burdett - SDCC


David Evanoski - CSUF

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David Finnigan - Santa Clara

<p>I have judged Varsity Policy, Parli and LD debate rounds and IE rounds for 2&nbsp;years at both the high school and college tournament level. I competed at&nbsp;San Francisco State University in debate and IEs and went to Nationals&nbsp;twice, and I also competed at North Hollywood High School.<br /> <br /> Make it a clean debate. Keep the thinking as linear as possible.<br /> <br /> Counterplans should be well thought out &ndash; and original.<br /> <br /> Speed is not an issue with me as usually I can flow when someone spreads.<br /> <br /> Critically framed arguments: I do like theory arguments but not arguments&nbsp;that are way, way out there and have no basis in fact or applicability.<br /> <br /> Topicality is good and it is an important aspect of the debate. Going&nbsp;offcase with non-traditional arguments is fine as long as such arguments are&nbsp;explained.</p> <p>Above all, have fun.</p> <p>Speaker points: you should work hard to earn your points through civility&nbsp;and solid speaking.<br /> <br /> Performance based arguments: Keep the thinking linear.</p>


David Berver - Mesa


Dayle Hardy-Short - NAU

<p><strong>Dayle Hardy-Short - Northern Arizona University </strong></p> <p><br /> <strong>Saved Philosophy:</strong></p> <p><br /> Background:</p> <p>I have not judged NPDA parliamentary debate this year--I have judged BP and Lincoln-Douglas. So my flowing is a little rusty.</p> <p><br /> On speaker points, I look to such things as analysis, reasoning, evidence, organization, refutation, and delivery (delivery being only 1 of 6 considerations I made for speaker points). Thus, I virtually never give low-point wins because if a team &quot;wins&quot;, then it has done something better than the other team (i.e., like had clearer organization or better arguments).</p> <p><br /> Generally:</p> <p>Generally, I am open to most positions and arguments. I expect the debaters to tell me what they think I should vote on, and why. I appreciate clash. I will not do the work for the team. I believe that the affirmative/government has the responsibility to affirm the resolution and the negative/opposition has the responsibility to oppose the resolution or the affirmative. Such affirmation and opposition can appear&nbsp;in different forms. I feel pretty comfortable in my understanding of whether or not something is a new argument in rebuttals, and I will not vote in favor of new arguments--just because someone extends an argument does not mean it&#39;s new, and just because someone uses a new term does not mean the argument is new (they may be reframing a previously-articulated argument based on additional responses from the other team).</p> <p><br /> I prefer debates in which debaters clearly explain why I should do what they think I should do.&nbsp;This includes explaining use of particular jargon and/or assumptions underlying it (for instance, if you say &quot;condo bad&quot;, I may not necessarily understand in the heat of the debate that you&#39;re talking about conditionality versus something you live in; similarly I do not understand what &ldquo;fism&rdquo; is&mdash;you need to tell me). Do not assume that simply&nbsp;using a particular word means I will understand your argument (argument includes claim, explanation, and evidence of some kind). Please consider not only labeling the argument, but telling me what you mean by it.</p> <p><br /> I will&nbsp;listen as carefully as possible&nbsp;to what&#39;s going on in your debate (I will try to adapt to what YOU say and argue). Do your debate, make your arguments, and I will do my best to weigh them according to what happened in the debate. I am not arrogant enough to think that I get everything on the flow, nor am I arrogant enough to claim that I understand everything you say.&nbsp;But if you explain important arguments, most of the time I can understand them. At least I will try.</p> <p><br /> Topicality is a voting issue for me, and I listen to how teams set up the arguments; I consider it to be an a priori argument. I have an extremely wide latitude in terms of what affirmative can claim as topical within the scope of any given resolution. I don&rsquo;t like T arguments that are ONLY about so-called abuse (indeed, I do not find them persuasive). I prefer that you focus on why the affirmative isn&rsquo;t topical. Thus, I prefer in the round you explain why something is not topical (standards, alternative definitions, etc.), but you do not need to articulate abuse (which I define as &quot;they&#39;re taking ground from us; they&rsquo;ve ruined debate; or similar arguments&rdquo;). I guess it does seem to me that if a case is truly non-topical, then it almost always follows that the position is unfair to the negative--as long as the negative came truly prepared to debate the topic. Thus, the negative does not need to belabor the point--say it and move on.</p> <p><br /> I will assume your counterplan is unconditional, and if you think it should be otherwise, please explain and justify that position. With an articulated counterplan, then my job becomes to weigh the best advocacy with regard to the resolution. Please provide me (and the other team) with an actual CP plan text, so I can consider arguments about it as they are made (I really do prefer a written plan text, or please repeat it 2-3 times so I get it written down correctly).</p> <p><br /> I certainly am not opposed to permutations, but please have a text that you can show me and your opponents.</p> <p><br /> I am not opposed to critiques nor performance debate, but please be very very clear about why they should win and what criteria I should use to evaluate them and/or weigh them in the debate as a whole.</p> <p><br /> Abstract impacts should be clearly demonstrated and explained, and concrete impacts need to have similar weight.</p> <p><br /> A final note on speed and civility. I don&#39;t have particular problems with speed, but clarity is essential--clear speakers can speak very quickly and I will get the flow. I believe that debate is an important activity, both as an intellectual exercise and as a co-curricular activity in which we get to test classroom learning in a more pragmatic way (application and reductio ad absurdum), including communication skills and the extent to which arguments can go. The way we behave in rounds often becomes habit-forming. So show some respect for the activity, some respect for your opposition, and some respect for the judge. I&#39;ll try to keep up with you if you&#39;ll treat me like a human being.&nbsp;I will think through your arguments if you will give me arguments worth thinking through.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Dena Counts - ACU

<p>&nbsp;<strong><em>I am the DOF at ACU.&nbsp; I have been coaching Parli for the last 7&nbsp;years.&nbsp; For those last 7&nbsp;years, I have judged on average 65 rounds per year. &nbsp;This year I have been judging less but still should be able to keep up with you.</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong><em>I vote with the better quality of argument. When I say better quality, I am looking for depth of arguments and warrants behind your claim. I attempt to remove my individual biases from the round and make debaters tell me where and why to vote. I understand that biases do seep into my judgments, but I do feel that I should make decisions based upon your argumentation &ndash; not my worldview. Probably, I&rsquo;m more of a game player when it comes to a decision maker.&nbsp; Love new and unique strategies. I really think almost anything goes in this thing called debate. I say &quot;anything&quot; as I don&#39;t like cursing, nakedness, or slurs, but strategy wise, you can do what you need to do to win. Know that I&rsquo;m very expressive in my nonverbals. If I am getting your argument, you&rsquo;ll know. If you&rsquo;ve lost me, you should know from my nonverbals. I have only been coaching for five years, so there are times that super speed (not typically speed) can lose me. Again watch my nonverbals, and I&rsquo;ll let you know. I flow, judge on the flow, and don&rsquo;t do the work for you.&nbsp; Use your rebuttal to tell me why you win and where on the flow your arguments overwhelm the teams.</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Section 2: Specific Inquiries &nbsp;</p> <p>Please describe your approach to the following.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Speaker points (what is your typical speaker point range or average speaker points given)?&nbsp; <strong><em>25 to 30</em></strong></p> <p>25 to 27 means you need work</p> <p>28 to 30 means you are pretty awesome</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; How do you approach critically framed arguments? Can affirmatives run critical arguments? Can critical arguments be &ldquo;contradictory&rdquo; with other negative positions?&nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><em>Kritiks are great from both Aff and Neg. Explain your framework, impacts and give me a realistic alternative. &nbsp;I do think you need an alternative and it shouldn&#39;t bite your story.&nbsp; No I don&rsquo;t think when you run other negative arguments they should contradict other neg positions unless through the running of those positions you are trying to make a point.</em></strong><br /> &nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong><em>3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </em></strong>Performance based arguments&hellip;&nbsp; <strong><em>Great.&nbsp; Just tell me how I should interpret them, how they function in the round.</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Topicality. What do you require to vote on topicality? Is in-round abuse necessary? Do you require competing interpretations? <strong><em>&nbsp;&nbsp;I will vote on T but would rather vote elsewhere. To pull that trigger in -round abuse is typically necessary. Also, competing interp is necessary.</em></strong><br /> &nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>5.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Counterplans -- PICs good or bad? Should opp identify the status of the counterplan? Perms -- textual competition ok? functional competition?&nbsp; <strong><em>CP&rsquo;s are fine. PICS are fine. That doesn&rsquo;t mean you shouldn&rsquo;t run argumentation of why PICS are bad though. Yes, ID the status of the CP. PERM the CP every which way you can. If you can think of a new way to PERM that would be super fun.</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>6.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it acceptable for teams to share their flowed arguments with each other during the round (not just their plans)&nbsp; <strong><em>Yes that&rsquo;s fine.</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong><em>7.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </em></strong>In the absence of debaters&#39; clearly won arguments to the contrary, what is the order of evaluation that you will use in coming to a decision (e.g. do procedural issues like topicality precede kritiks which in turn precede cost-benefit analysis of advantages/disadvantages, or do you use some other ordering?)?&nbsp; <strong><em>Topicality is first.&nbsp; Then I look to Criteria or Framework to tell me where to go.&nbsp; Usually it is impacts or turns on case.&nbsp; I REALLY like rebuttals that tell me where to vote and WHY to vote.</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong><em>8.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </em></strong>How do you weight arguments when they are not explicitly weighed by the debaters or when weighting claims are diametrically opposed? How do you compare abstract impacts (i.e. &quot;dehumanization&quot;) against concrete impacts (i.e. &quot;one million deaths&quot;)? <strong><em>If you don&rsquo;t tell me WHY your impact outweighs their impacts on timeline, magnitude or probability, you are gambling on my choice or priority.&nbsp;&nbsp;I would probably go with concrete impacts over abstract ones.</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Elyse Peterson - CSUF

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Eric Garcia - IVC


Eric Young - X Hired

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Evan Ziegler - X Hired

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Fernan Balsalubre - Grossmont


Francesca Bishop - El Camino

<p>I had my years of debating; it is now your turn.&nbsp;There are&nbsp;lots of things I believe about debate and the world in general, but&nbsp;I try not&nbsp;to bring them into the round.&nbsp;Thus, if you tell me something, I write it down and assume it true unless it is refuted. That means that you&nbsp;CAN lose a round if you drop one little argument; if you drop&nbsp;a lynchpin argument, or a framework arrgument (where I look first) it could be bad. Although I try to be tabula rasa, there are a couple of exceptions: One is&nbsp;if you tell me to use my ballot as a tool in any way, or ask me to vote on real world impacts.&nbsp;I see this as a demand for intervention based on what I actually believe, therefore I may not vote on arguments that have &quot;won.&quot;&nbsp; A second&nbsp;exception is if you tell me something that I know to be untrue--so&nbsp;please don&#39;t guess or make stuff up.&nbsp;</p> <p>Because I try to base my decision based only on arguments&nbsp;that are made&nbsp;in the round,&nbsp;I don&#39;t assume anything. Therefore, you need to tell me why something matters. For example, don&#39;t expect me to assume climate change is happening or that it&#39;s bad, or for that matter, that nuclear war is bad.&nbsp;Likewise, you don&#39;t have to run only liberal&nbsp;positions. Arguments are just that--arguments. I don&#39;t assume you believe them or care if they are &quot;true.&quot;&nbsp;In general, know that I believe that debate is a game.</p>


Gary Rybold - IVC

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Judging philosophy for Professor Gary Rybold</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <h1>Retired Director of Forensics &ndash; Irvine Valley College</h1> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I debated for four years of high school and four years of college.&nbsp; I&nbsp;coached for 25 years (primarily at community colleges).&nbsp; Typically, in an average year, I judged over 25 rounds.&nbsp; Many years I coached both parliamentary and policy debate (but not since 2003).&nbsp;I view myself primarily as an educator in this activity.&nbsp; My great respect for academic debate comes from a traditional approach to coaching, judging, and following the rules. However, I will try my best not to prejudge your specific way of debating. Although I will listen to new ideas, please do not think I will necessarily like/understand them. Merely uttering a term and assuming its impact or how it functions will not be your best strategy in the round. This is what I would like debaters to know:</p> <p><strong>PREFERENCES &ndash; </strong>I hold that there is value in debating various types of propositions (not just policies).&nbsp; I think that most fact propositional debates are misplaced (and may require me to activate my knowledge to provide a check on the evidence for the positions advanced).&nbsp; I also feel that as a community we have lessened (perhaps intentionally) our ability to effectively debate value propositions.&nbsp; Still, I will try to start my evaluation of the round on the basis of stock issues, dependent on the type of resolution, as they function in the round.&nbsp; The key term for every team is justify.&nbsp; At all levels should you want me to accept your interpretation of the topic, definition, criteria, decision rule, plan, contention, or debate theory you should explain the superiority of your position.&nbsp; I love teams that refute before providing their rationale &ndash; clash is essential for high points. Therefore, the burden of rejoinder is the key element of my decision. I will listen to topicality should the government be unprepared to defend their interpretation (although it pains me to vote on trivial technicalities when there is little ground lost). Stellar delivery will get you extra points.&nbsp; I crave solid organization. I desire wit and a demonstration of knowledge from the debaters.&nbsp; Ultimately, I will vote on the basis of critical thinking skills exhibited in the round based on what you impact on my flow sheet.&nbsp; I will like your round more if you avoid: rudeness, ignorance, destructive verbal/nonverbal aggressiveness, shiftiness, Ninja-like tricks, whining, style over substance, viewpoint discrimination, profanity, politics DAs and extending numbers not arguments. I know that there are too many topic areas and a limited preparation time, but please try not to utilize a distorted interpretation of the empirical dimensions of reality; it really puts me in a bind on decisions.</p> <p><strong>CRITIQUES</strong> - A special note for those who care about critiques: I am probably a few years behind the trends. I disapprove of the tactic of pushing automatic privileging of any postmodern theory as the superior position, possessing the moral high ground over all other arguments (especially since I am a Christian). Therefore, please explain your position with solid justification. Let me know how the argument functions in the round (hopefully more than a non-unique DA). Trying to silence a team, because their language is boorish, seems antithetical to good debate and the first amendment. I have yet to hear a pre-fiat argument that changed me in a round (making pre-fiat just as illusionary as fiat for me).&nbsp; Should you want to take the discourse to a micro level, please be advised, I will activate my own voice through the ballot.</p> <p><strong>SPEED &ndash; </strong>I understand you may want to go really fast. But most of the gut spread parli rounds I see just don&rsquo;t allow for a genuine development of ideas. Often it seems like little more than unwarranted tags being thrown out.&nbsp; So, while I know intervening may be considered a violation of our social contract, I will just stop flowing if I can&rsquo;t understand you (&gt;225 wpm). Please don&rsquo;t expect me to yell &ldquo;clear.&rdquo; If it gets a little too fast I may not vote against a team because of dropped arguments. Please don&rsquo;t make me make those choices.</p> <p><strong>ULTIMATE GOAL</strong> - As a community college educator I hope for an optimal educational experience in each speech. As the debate culture changes we should also encourage discourse that allows the evolution to be rational and civil. Our community should encourage higher values.&nbsp; My hope is that all debaters will respect the activity so much that they would try to reach a bit further in the rounds I judge, so we can all fulfill our educational mission.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Geoffrey BrodakSilva - CSULA

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gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language:JA;} </style> <![endif]--><!--StartFragment--></p> <p>My comments in this paradigm should be understood as the horizon from my point of view--not dictates.&nbsp; I love debate because it allows teams to argue about what they feel is important.</p> <p>I have been active in debate for over 20 years at both the high school and the college level.&nbsp; In that time, I have watched as 2 documentary film crews followed two separate teams on mine (1 high school, 1 college).&nbsp; I have worked several summer institutes, coached in the Northwest and Southwest, started an English Language Debate League in Mexico City and continue working with the LA Metro League. &nbsp;I am currently the Director at Cal State LA and have judged about 15&nbsp;rounds this year.</p> <p>Many years ago I wrote an article about why I think the tricotomy, while conceptually helpful, fails to provide a fair and debater centered approach to topic interpretation.&nbsp; I feel much the same way about the stock issues, where inherency plays the role of fact, harms the role of value, and solvency playing policy.&nbsp; Like most of the policy-maker paradigm, I see significance and topicality as derivative of the coordination of other three.&nbsp; That is to say, I will use my real-world experiences both in and out of rounds, and therefore cannot feign ignorance of their import.</p> <p>I do not feel that the ability to speak quickly is even close to one of the most significant things I have learned from forensics.&nbsp; I can flow fast debate because I have been trained to, not because I enjoy the tactic.&nbsp; I do not feel that rate is a substitute for making strategic choices.</p> <p>I believe that the negative has the burden of rejoinder and, as such, must respond to the substantive arguments of the affirmative.&nbsp; I dislike the 1-off LOC because while tactical choices are made, it also necessitates a &ldquo;going for everything&rdquo; strategy that does not necessitate making strategic choices.</p> <p>I rarely vote on procedural arguments because they are usually pale shadows of a more important substantive issue.&nbsp; There have been times when there is clearly articulated in-round abuse; but it goes without saying that the procedural argument trades off with another actual position, not a potential position.</p> <p>A counterplan needs to test the solvency of the affirmative&rsquo;s advocacy, which is to say, it competes with the plan on the level of net benefits.&nbsp; Both textual and functional competition have the possibility of fulfilling this standard, if they can demonstrate an opportunity cost.&nbsp; Since uniqueness can be counterplanned, the status of the advocacy need not be unconditional.&nbsp; A permutation is the plan plus any part of the counterplan--&ldquo;Do both&rdquo; is not a permutation.</p> <p>Kritik is a label to describe arguments that do not easily fit into either the stock issues or the policy maker paradigm.&nbsp; Teams should feel free to use &ldquo;framework&rdquo; to ease this disparity, but not as a substitute for demonstration of an alternative.&nbsp; However, I do believe it is possible to defend rejection as such an alternative.</p> <p>Points of order should be called if you are worried that a rebuttal argument is not being understood as new.&nbsp; I will protect teams from arguments that create a new strategic field once rebuttals have begun.&nbsp; In preliminary debates, points of order will be well taken or not; in out-rounds, points of orders will be taken under consideration.</p> <p>At the end of the round, 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Gina Lane - Jewell

<p><strong>Question 1 : Please enter your judging philosophy.&nbsp;</strong></p> <p>I try to be open to a variety of debate arguments, but I default to a policy analysis in a net-benefits paradigm.&nbsp; I think the critical element of any debate is for debaters to compare argument impacts in the round and tell me what my decision calculus should be.&nbsp; The most common mistake I see is debaters who run several arguments and leave them all in play to see what sticks.&nbsp; This nearly always creates shallow debate that invites judge intervention.&nbsp; The second most common mistake I see is debates that are&nbsp;<strong>both too fast and lack warrants</strong>.&nbsp; I have worn hearing aids for a decade, and I just invested in new ones.&nbsp; It is your responsibility to do what you can to make sure that all of the participants hear your arguments accurately.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;If I can&rsquo;t understand you, I promise you I will not see the round the same way you do.</p> <p>&nbsp;Please slow down for plan texts, counterplan texts, t interpretations, k alternatives, perm texts.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Other issues you want to know &ndash;</p> <p>&nbsp;1) I&rsquo;m not a fan of fact debate; I think it is difficult to weigh arguments on a preponderance of evidence standard.&nbsp;&nbsp;I will listen to this approach, but I will also listen to arguments that argue that policy advocacy is superior.</p> <p>&nbsp;2) Topicality: I vote on topicality when there are clear counter-interpretations that prove abuse of ground.&nbsp;&nbsp;I prefer not to vote on RVIs, but I have when they are mishandled.&nbsp;&nbsp;I am open to a variety of interpretations on T &ndash; both the ground abuse and the competing interpretations approach are ok with me (but if you use the latter, you have to debate out the standards).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;3) Counterplans: I will vote on topical counterplans &ndash; they must be competitive via net benefits.&nbsp;&nbsp;I prefer not to hear a lot of theory arguments in counterplans, but I will listen.</p> <p>&nbsp;4) Kritiks: I always like kritiks on an abstract level, but to win a kritik in front of me I need to hear you conceptualize the alternative debate.&nbsp;&nbsp;You have to win that the alternative is more compelling that a net benefits approach.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;5) Narratives, projects, performance, alternative debate, etc.: These are creative approaches, but I prefer a clear explanation of how to weigh such arguments versus traditional debate arguments. I also prefer a link to the resolution.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&rsquo;m sorry, but I have a difficult time understanding the oppressive nature of fiat.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have voted for this argument, but I don&rsquo;t find it particularly persuasive.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;6) Speed.&nbsp;&nbsp;I flow at a pretty fast level, but you need to articulate well.&nbsp;&nbsp;Unlike other forms of debate, I can&rsquo;t ask for cards at the end of the round to reconstruct arguments, so I have to get your arguments on the first hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;You have the responsibility to communicate. Again,&nbsp;<strong>a lot of debates are too fast and lack warrants</strong>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Please stop assuming that I will vote for this kind of behavior.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p> <p>7) Points of Order and new arguments &ndash; I don&rsquo;t flow new arguments, but if you believe it is critical, you should call it.</p> <p>&nbsp;8) Impact calculus: I am hearing a lot of arguments in which the warrants and internal links between a relatively small plan action and human extinction in some form are glossed over or non-existent.&nbsp;&nbsp;Whose idea was this?&nbsp;&nbsp;It is a bad one.&nbsp;&nbsp;Although magnitude is attractive, I will listen closely to probability analysis as a means for determining whether to vote for a particular argument.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;9) Post-round behavior: Feel free to ask me a question or two about my decision.&nbsp;&nbsp;If you disagree with my decision and you feel like verbally assaulting me, please refrain.&nbsp;&nbsp;And if I am on the panel and you feel like verbally assaulting my judging colleagues, please refrain.</p> <p>&nbsp;10) Sitting, standing, cussing, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;I don&rsquo;t care if you sit or stand.&nbsp;&nbsp;I personally think you have better air control while standing, but it is your call.&nbsp;&nbsp;If you talk during your partner&rsquo;s speech I will not pay attention to what you are saying, so your partner better repeat it if you want me to flow it.&nbsp;&nbsp;I know cussing in debate rounds happens, but I don&rsquo;t see why you would use empty, emotion-laden language that is often offensive when a word with content and substance is more strategic.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;Finally, if you know me at all, you know that I love the debate community.&nbsp;&nbsp;I believe we should respect and care for each other even as we compete against each other.&nbsp;&nbsp;I will do my best to treat you with respect and give you the best judging experience I can offer.&nbsp;&nbsp;Please give me and all the participants in the room the best debate experience you can offer.&nbsp;&nbsp;Have a wonderful tournament!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Grant Tovmasian - CSULA


Grant Anderson - UNK

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Griffith Vertican - Concordia-CA

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Ian Sharples - PLNU

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Jacki Evans - Utah


Jason Hosfield - X Hired

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Jay Arntson - Glendale CC


Jen Clarry - El Camino


Jennifer McGee - Concordia-CA

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Jessica Williams - Notre Dame

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Jim Wyman - Moorpark

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Jin Nakama - Mesa

<p>~~As a baseline, I might best be characterized as traditional debate theorist and an ideologue-critic with a symbolic touch. My views can and do change, but there are some things you might like to know about me how I approach debate as an activity&hellip;</p> <p>I take a good flow, but I won&rsquo;t allow my flow to bind me. I will vote on and off the flow in whatever way I think will allows me to render a true and fair decision. As debaters, your role is to debate the resolution and my role is to determine the outcome of a round.</p> <p>I take a humanistic view to debate, and I expect arguments and cases presented are done so in a manner that connects with our experiences. The process of argumentation and evaluation does not happen in a vacuum, it happens within the context of experience. This does not mean that arguments must conform to my worldview, but rather, that arguments should be grounded in the world around us. If you&rsquo;re going to paint a picture of a different world, that&rsquo;s fine too. In general, it should just make sense within the narrative you choose.</p> <p>#Policy</p> <p>Where the resolution stipulates a call to action, I adopt a stock issues paradigm and artificial presumption. Stock issues answer the questions needed to resolve questions regarding the adoption of the resolution&mdash;and so, the Affirmative team must affirm all five stock issues (Inherency, Significance/Harms, Solvency/Advantages) in order to secure the round. Failure to bring a prima facie case, will result in my defaulting to the Opposition team on presumption. Because of the nature of parliamentary debate and its limited prep, my thresholds aren&rsquo;t as stringent as they are in traditional policy formats, but please know that the less time you spend laying out and defending each stock issue, the weaker they will be and the easier it will be for the Opposition team to negate them. You need only lose one to lose the round.</p> <p>Absent a specific call to action, I will look to Framework first before I look to line-by-line argumentation. The Resolution should remain the focus of the debate, and any impacts on cause should be both reasonable and probable outcomes. Extremism, terminal impacts or arguments that are morally bankrupt hold little sway over me, however, if you think you can argue these points with success, I will listen to what you have to say, albeit with a raised brow.</p> <p>Whether or not the Affirmative team has met their burden upholding the resolution will determine the outcome of the round.</p> <p>#Fact/Value</p> <p>In F/V rounds, I look to the body and quality of arguments and weighing analysis. Arguments should go to the probative and have a clear link to the criterion and how that proves or disproves the resolution. Remember, facts and examples are not arguments. They should be used to support your arguments.</p> <p>#Procedurals</p> <p>I look here first as these are a priori issues. Generally, these should be employed as a means of demonstrating in-round abuse, though if you think you have good enough reason to run it based on competing interpretations, by all means, go for it. I vote on issues of fairness before the impacts of case because fairness as a practice extends beyond the round while the impacts of case are limited to just that round.</p> <p>#Speaker Points</p> <p>Speaker points and ranks are determined based on style and conduct. I was taught to debate traditionally, and I proceed accordingly. When the round begins, address me directly and not the other team during -all- points of interaction. Please stand when you speak.&nbsp; Partner-to-partner communication is strongly discouraged, however you may pass notes. I value etiquette very much and I am likely to punish any perceived hostility by deducting speaker points with liberty.</p> <p>#Speed</p> <p>I view debate as an art and practice in persuasion. Parliamentary debate provides little justification to speak at nigh unintelligible speeds. Speak to me as you would your grandfather, though please not so much as though I were a golden retriever.</p> <p>#Final Thoughts</p> <p>I believe judges have three major functions in this activity; Educator, Adjudicator, and Trustee. As Educator, a duty to help guide and provide perspective on the event; as Adjudicator, the task of deciding the outcome of a round; and as Trustee, the responsibility of preserving and protecting the integrity of the activity as a whole. So, even if you win on my flow, but I find you sorely lacking in good conduct, you will lose on my ballot.</p> <p>I have a great love for this activity and oral tradition. I will judge your round with enthusiasm and give you my very best, without exception. My request of you is that you please give me yours. I&rsquo;m delighted by good company, so if you see me wandering around during tournaments, feel free to say hello and have a chat!</p> <p>Happy debating and good luck!</p>


Joel Anguiano - EPCC

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Joey Mavity - Azusa

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong><strong>Notes collected over the 2012-2013 season</strong></strong></p> <p><strong><em>most up-to-date version at http://bit.ly/myrfd</em></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><br /> <strong>I fundamentally approach debate from a principle of charity: I assume the best arguments that can be made are the arguments you make. This makes it fairly easy for me to make my decision based on what you argue rather than what I think about an issue.<br /> <br /> Thus, while I speak at length on my biases and preferences, I&rsquo;ll vote on an argument even if I think its bonkers. When I say something like, &ldquo;the negative shouldn&rsquo;t,&rdquo; it&rsquo;s not an absolute rule.<br /> <br /> I probably over-value clever and snarky. I don&rsquo;t value taking it too far.</strong></p> <p><strong>Argument Quality</strong></p> <p><br /> <strong>Increasingly I&rsquo;m reaching the point where too many unwarranted arguments mean I simply don&rsquo;t flow them. I understand one or two or even 10 over the course of the debate. But 10 in a row, I&rsquo;m just going to peace out and probably start flipping my pen. This has not happened in the &lsquo;11-&rsquo;12 year, but it did twice in &lsquo;10-&rsquo;11. If you don&rsquo;t respect co-participants enough to <em>make an argument</em>, I have a hard time feeling compelled to push buttons on my laptop. I think I have a much higher threshold here than some people.</strong></p> <p><strong>Competition/Plan text</strong></p> <p><strong>My default perspective is that the affirmative has broad access to parametric limits on the advocacy they present. This means if the resolution is, &lsquo;Pass X piece of legislation,&rdquo; you must pass all or part of that legislation. I tend to think passing something not in that legislation is probably going beyond the scope of the resolution.<br /> <br /> As a result of your choice, I think you&rsquo;re responsible for the consequences of your plan text. More plainly: I tend to think &ldquo;textual competition&rdquo; is a silly standard. If you didn&rsquo;t want to defend the extent of your actions, you should have written a different plan.<br /> <br /> &ldquo;But the resolution made me do it!&rdquo; is probably one of the most asinine claims ever.</strong></p> <p><strong>CP text</strong></p> <p><strong>Don&rsquo;t read CP/alt text and not take questions. CP/alt in the last minute is absurd and has often been a voting issue in years past (though this practice is less common today).</strong></p> <p><strong>Neutral concerns</strong></p> <p><strong>I don&rsquo;t flow points of information unless you tell me to. POIs are binding.<br /> <br /> It&rsquo;s difficult for me to vote on RVI&rsquo;s. </strong></p> <p><strong>Points of Order</strong></p> <p><strong>I expect you to call points of order if an argument is new in a way that will affect my decision. For the one objecting, this consists of a clear articulation of what argument you think is new and why you think it is new. For the respondent, this consists of a clear articulation of why the violation identified by the opposing team is incorrect. For instance: &ldquo;Their argument that death trumps ethics is a new argument that radically alters the impact calculus of the round by mooting our critique,&rdquo; is a good point of order. &ldquo;This argument is new,&rdquo; on the other hand, is not. When responding, &ldquo;We answered this in the MG,&rdquo; is a fairly vague answer. I&rsquo;m not willing to look through every word of the MG and guess which line you think was a response. Instead, &ldquo;Our #2 on the alternative is that ethical obligations find their ultimate expression in the preservation of human life. That&rsquo;s a wordy way of saying &lsquo;life trumps ethics&rsquo; and hence is not new.&rdquo;</strong></p> <p><strong>Impact analysis</strong></p> <p><strong>Arguments about how to evaluate and weigh issues in the debate are themselves arguments and should be presented early and often.</strong></p> <p><strong>Past RFDs</strong></p> <p><strong>I&rsquo;ve made every single RFD since Fall 2010 available at <a href="http://bit.ly/myrfd">http://bit.ly/myrfd</a>. I think that gives you a much more detailed feel for my judging philosophy than this will because you can see what my recurring complaints are. </strong></p> <p><strong>Time use</strong></p> <p><strong>Don&rsquo;t feel compelled to fill time. If you&rsquo;ve won, end it. If you need the time, use it. Effective time management, though, can only help you. Saying &ldquo;let me review all our arguments&rdquo; and then spending 3 minutes repeating what you&rsquo;ve already said can only hurt you.</strong></p> <p><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> &nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <hr /> <p>&nbsp;</p> <h2><strong>Coloring Book Edition</strong></h2> <p><strong><em>Special thanks to Mike Allen</em></strong></p> <hr /> <p>&nbsp;</p>


John Pate - CBU


Jon Sonoda - PLNU

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Jonathan Burrello - Biola

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Jordan Innerarity - UT-Tyler

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Jordan Cherry - PLNU


Joseph Evans - Long Beach

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Josh Cangelosi - SDCC

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gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Cambria; mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--><!--StartFragment--></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Background: <o:p></o:p></b></p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto; text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->Current parli coach and philosophy, communication, and English instructor</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto; text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->Past collegiate parli debater</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Preferences: <o:p></o:p></b></p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto; text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->Debaters who present their ideas with passion, personality, spirit, spunk, liveliness, affability, respect, and conviction.</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space: auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->Anything you want to do is fine with me! I will make my decisions based on the arguments in the round and don&rsquo;t have any preconceived dislikes of any debate positions or strategies.</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space: auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->Big-picture voting issues that weigh everything out for me, not line-by-line analysis, in the rebuttals.</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space: auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->I&rsquo;d love to see some performance debates and critical affirmatives; just be clear rather than opaque and abstruse in the theory/story you are telling. I like critiques as well, but again it&rsquo;s important that all the theory make clear sense instead of being a bunch of impenetrable jargon.</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space: auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->I vote for clear arguments that I can understand, which is why the big-picture reasons why I should vote for you are so important.</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space: auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->Some speed is okay, but I vote for convincing arguments, not blips on the flow.</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space: auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->Have fun, and be creative. I like out-of-the-box debating, so I&rsquo;m the judge for running that crazy case you&rsquo;ve always wanted to run. Just don&rsquo;t be boring!</p> <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto; text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"> <!--[if !supportLists]--> <span style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><!--[endif]-->If you are a novice, relax and have fun. The most important thing to remember is that debate is an educational and social event, so just do your best and enjoy yourself. In the end, it&rsquo;s all about the skills and friendships you develop.&nbsp;</p> <!--EndFragment-->


Juan Victorio - X Hired

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Jules Throckmorton - IVC

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>JULES THROCKMORTON-FRENCH:&nbsp;IRVINE&nbsp;VALLEY&nbsp;COLLEGE</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Background of the critic:</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I&#39;ve been involved with Parliamentary Debate for the last 10 years; whether that be competing, coaching, or judging. I competed from 2001-2004 for what was then known as the South Orange County Forensics Team (SOC). Since that time, I went on to earn my Juris Doctor at law school. However, my love for forensics brought me back to the speech and debate community. I&#39;ve coached debate and individual events at both Saddleback and&nbsp;Irvine&nbsp;Valley&nbsp;College. I am also the Director of Individual Events at Concordia University.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Approach of the critic to decision-making (for example, adherence to the trichotomy, stock-issues, policymaker, tabula rasa, etc.):</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I consider myself a flow judge. I don&#39;t have any particular likes or dislikes- I will be open minded to whatever you choose to run in front of me. I will try to be as tabula rasa as possible. With that said, call every &quot;point of order,&quot; or I will flow it.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Relative importance of presentation/communication skills to the critic in decision-making:</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Communication is important as, after all, this is a communication event. However, good communication will only get you so far; I may award you high speaker points, but good communication skills will not necessarily win you the round. As far as speed goes, I am ok with a moderately-fast pace so long as it is CLEAR, necessary, and well signposted.&nbsp;&nbsp;Remember that I have been focusing more on individual events this year, and as a result my flow has gotten a little slower. Be careful, b/c if you are going too fast I will not give any verbal signals.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Relative importance of on-case argumentation to the critic in decision-making:</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I think a good debate involves offense and defense, and a good debater will never put all their eggs in one basket. However, there have been plenty of rounds where I&#39;ve picked up OPP even though the on-case was conceded.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Openness to critical/performative styles of debating:</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I will be open-minded to whatever you want to run.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Any additional comments:</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I will time road maps!!! Make the round an easy call for me- weigh everything out and tell me EXACTLY where you&#39;re winning and why. Give me clear voters &amp; tell me where to pull the trigger. Please be clear and signpost. Also, please do not be rude! Finally, I am old-fashioned in the sense that I believe you should stand for your speeches, and if your partner has something to contribute they can simply pass a note rather than yelling out.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Julianna Wilhoit - Concordia-CA

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Justin Perkins - Palomar


Justin Harris - Concordia-CA

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Karen Nishie - Vanguard

<p>&nbsp;</p> <h2>Karen Nishie - Vanguard University</h2> <p><strong>Question 1 : Background of the critic</strong><br /> Two and a half years college parliamentary debate 11&nbsp;years coaching parliamentary debate.&nbsp; DOF at Vanguard University.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /> <strong>Question 2 : Approach of the critic to decision-making (for example, adherence to the trichotomy, stock-issues, policymaker, tabula rasa, etc.)</strong><br /> I am often called an &quot;old school&quot; critic -- which I think means I adhere to trichotomy (believing that there are three distinct types of resolutions with three types of argumentation that follow), I also follow stock isues with the rationale that they make for a cleaner debate than not. While I am well read I am not in the round -- meaning you don&#39;t have to argue the other team AND my biases/opinions. You should appreciate this. I have voted on positions that are, frankly offensive to my world view because that&#39;s where the debate went. I have never (to my knowledge) voted because the debaters did not cater to my world view nor have I assigned ballots to bad arguments that supported my personal world view -- I think that answers the question on tabula rasa. I may be the last judge standing who believes that opposition has presumption entering the round and that affirmative has specific burdens (like upholding the resolution, defining terms etc -- see stock issues). I am not a fan of claims that aff did not have to fufill primae facia because poi&#39;s &quot;check back&quot;. Opps ability to ask questions is not a responsibility to make sure Aff is doing their job.<br /> <strong>Question 3 : Relative importance of presentation/communication skills to the critic in decision-making</strong><br /> Very. This is a communication event preparing (in my mind) you to be better citizens and better communicators. I can keep up with speed, I just don&#39;t want to have to. You should be persuasive, this activity is great training for a future in advocacy, law, education, ministry, homemaking...fill in the blank -- and in no profession (other than auctioneer or voice telling me the potential harms of some new medicine) is speaking as fast as you can possibly spew words out a positive. In fact, a lot of what I see (lack of professionalism, lack of politeness, lack of respect) will likely COST you in the &quot;real world&quot;. If you are speaking so fast that you spit on me -- it will not reflect well on the ballot -- and if you have to breathe in so hard that you break a rib let it be known that I do not know first aid.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Also, as a side note, I don&rsquo;t appreciate foul language at all, but particularly in public presentations that are meant to be persuasive.&nbsp; Dropping the F bomb in front of me is likely to earn you ridiculously low speaker points.<br /> <strong>Question 4 : Relative importance of on-case argumentation to the critic in decision-making</strong><br /> Very. Especially for the affirmative. For opposition you can stay off case, but all aff has to say is flow across and every argument they made stands -- in net benefits this may not benefit opp. Unlike some critics I think the opp has very few burdens (I believe they begin the debate with presumption and aff must prove other than the SQ is good) other than refutation and good argumentation. I will never drop an opposition team that did not run a counterplan.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>One more thing &ndash; each speaker is given a set amount of time to speak &ndash; don&rsquo;t talk over your partner during their time &ndash; I&rsquo;m only flowing the person who&rsquo;s turn it is to speak &ndash; so, make each other look strong and credible by giving your own speech.</p> <p><br /> <strong>Question 5 : Concerns about any particular argumentative approach/arguments which the critic rarely/never will vote for</strong><br /> I find Kritiks over used and under impacted. I like links so if the kritik is well articulated, well linked and well argued, I will buy it -- otherwise leave if for other critics. Arguments about how vampires have rights, or how the X-men function are probably better left for other critics also. I am a pretty pragmatic person so being overly creative (modern dance, hand puppets, arguments in the form of Haiku) are probably lost on me. I see my role in rounds simply to evaluate the claims you make and weigh them in the ways that you tell me to. If you fail to tell me how things weigh out then you give me permission to make up my own weighing paridigm -- and that will be bad for you.</p> <hr /> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Kathleen Bruce - Pacific

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Kevin Garner (Hired) - Jewell

<p>Experience: 1 year of NDT at University of Kansas; 3 1/2 years of parli at William Jewell College; 2 year parli coach at Texas Tech University; 6 years parli coach at William Jewell College.&nbsp;</p> <p>Note: I have been out of the activity since the fall of 2015. I judged at one tournament since and kept up with the pace.</p> <p>Section 1: General Information<br /> - I am a flow critic who evaluates the round through net benefits unless told otherwise. If a distinction does exist between pre/post fiat, you should tell me how to weigh all the arguments. I generally do not find arguments that seek to prevent the negative team from competing compelling (i.e. &quot;you can&#39;t run DAs, etc). I am fine with discursive impacts, but make sure all can access the round. You don&#39;t get to win simply because you are aff. I also do not like fatr/value debate and have a low threshold for voting on &quot;Fact/Value bad&quot; arguments.<br /> - I am frustrated by the trend of parli to reward unclear, blippy debates that lack substance. I give preference to warranted arguments and clash as compared to a dropped blip that was not developed. An argument is not one line!<br /> The above is especially true concerning impacts; a quick blip on &ldquo;Resource wars = extinction&rdquo; does not mean anything nor will I just assume the number of people who die as a result of your impacts; YOU MUST DO THE WORK!<br /> - I can flow a pretty fast pace, but there is such a thing as too fast and really such a thing as unclear. If I do not flow your arguments due to excess speed/lack of clarity, your fault, not mine.<br /> - I will give you a few seconds to get a drink and order, but I am frustrated with stealing prep. I may begin time if I think you are taking too long (you will know I am irritated when I ask you for the order).<br /> - You cannot perm a DA&hellip;.period!<br /> - I believe that you should take a question if your opponent wants one concerning a new advocacy (plan, CP, alt text, and if perm is more than &ldquo;Do Both&rdquo;).<br /> - Slow down and read your plan texts/interps/counter-interps twice unless you plan on giving me a copy<br /> - If you say &ldquo;x argument is for cheaters,&rdquo; you will probably lose my ballot. There is a difference between claiming an argument is bad/should not be ran and making an attack against a team. If a team has cheated, that is to be determined by the tournament, not in round.<br /> - I do not understand rudeness. Being rude does not help your arguments and only gets me irritated. Sarcasm and<br /> banter are fine, but there are limits.</p> <p><br /> Section 2: Specific Inquiries<br /> How do you approach critically framed arguments? Can affirmatives run critical arguments? Can critical<br /> arguments be &ldquo;contradictory&rdquo; with other negative positions.<br /> The aff/neg can run critical arguments; make sure you have a framework and alternative and be clear as to how I evaluate critical arguments with non-critical arguments. Also, dropping authors&rsquo; names and using big words does not mean the K is good;<br /> make sure you know what you are talking about or there is a good chance, I won&rsquo;t. The alt should be ran prior to protected time or allow time for questions.<br /> - I do not vote on Speed Ks (Update: There is a potential I could find this argument compelling, if framed correctly, when it becomes apparent that the sole purpose of using speed in a round is to exclude another team....but this is a stretch in most instances).<br /> - I will let teams debate out the legitimacy of contradictions.<br /> Performance based arguments&hellip;<br /> I will not exclude any arguments. Just make sure you have a clear framework to evaluate the argument and have an alternative<br /> Topicality. What do you require to vote on topicality? Is in-round abuse necessary? Do you require competing<br /> interpretations?<br /> I require you to win the argument and have a voter&hellip;.<br /> I do not require a counter interpretation; I just highly doubt you will win T without one<br /> Counterplans -- PICs good or bad? Should opp identify the status of the counterplan? Perms -- textual<br /> competition ok? functional competition?<br /> The opp should identify the status and if not, should allow the gov to ask what it is (without counting it as a question). The CP should also be ran prior to protected time or allow time for questions about the CP.<br /> I will let the debaters debate out CP theory for PICS, perms, etc.<br /> In the absence of debaters&#39; clearly won arguments to the contrary, what is the order of evaluation that you will<br /> use in coming to a decision (e.g. do procedural issues like topicality precede kritiks which in turn precede costbenefit<br /> analysis of advantages/disadvantages, or do you use some other ordering?)?<br /> I default to the weighing mechanism established (so if you say net ben and I am not told when to evaluate T, I will evaluate it as a decision of cost/benefit instead of as an a-priori issue). In a round with T and Ks, teams would be wise to debate out which one comes first.<br /> How do you weight arguments when they are not explicitly weighed by the debaters or when weighting claims are<br /> diametrically opposed? How do you compare abstract impacts (i.e. &quot;dehumanization&quot;) against concrete impacts<br /> (i.e. &quot;one million deaths&quot;)?<br /> I love the buzz terms &ldquo;time frame,&rdquo; &ldquo;magnitude,&rdquo; and &ldquo;probability.&rdquo; Debaters should use these.<br /> One million deaths will always come before an unwarranted dehum claim. Debaters should also tell me which impact standard takes priority.<br /> I also do not consider internal links, impacts. Telling me &ldquo;the economy goes down&rdquo; does not mean anything. Also how do I evaluate quality of life?</p>


Kevin Briancesco - Glendale CC

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Kim Jensen - PLNU


Kirsten McRae - X Hired

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Konrad Hack - Concordia-CA

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Lauren Anderson - Pepperdine


Linda Farnan - Mesa

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Liza Rios - IVC

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Liza Rios &ndash; Irvine Valley College &ndash; Judging Philosophy</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I started competing in individual events over twenty years ago. I have a MA in communication and teach a variety of communication courses. Recently, I have been judging more debate rounds.&nbsp; I do not yet have a strong theoretical foundation in advanced strategies, but I will try to understand your arguments and take a flow sheet.&nbsp;</p>


Loren Schwarzwalter - Glendale CC


Lorina Tamayo Schrauger - Biola

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Maclean Andrews - PLNU

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Marc Ouimet - Palomar


Matthew Strawbridge III - UCLA

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I competed in high school LD for 2 years, and I did 4 years of college parli, competing for Moorpark then UCLA. I also did some NFA LD. I now coach at UCLA while attending law school.<br /> <br /> I am open to any type of argument you want to make, in any way you want to make it. I don&rsquo;t want you to feel at all limited in what you can do. As much as possible, I&rsquo;ll try to remove myself from the round and adopt whatever paradigm the debaters tell me to. With only a few exceptions, the following should be interpreted merely as suggestions and explanations of my default decision-making process, rather than rigid rules you must follow to win or get high speaker points.<br /> <br /> Speed and Delivery<br /> I&rsquo;m fine with speed, although I don&rsquo;t especially like it and often doubt its usefulness. I don&rsquo;t really care about your delivery style, so do whatever is most comfortable to you, just make sure that everyone can hear you well. In the event that you&rsquo;re too fast or unclear for me, I&rsquo;ll let you know. If your opponent asks you to slow down or speak clearer, I expect you to accommodate that request.<br /> <br /> Procedurals<br /> For procedural arguments, I don&rsquo;t have any default thresholds or requirements like &ldquo;I won&rsquo;t vote unless there is in-round abuse.&rdquo; Feel free to make arguments one way or another, but I don&rsquo;t have an inherent aversion to voting on T/specs/etc without articulated ground loss, or even without any ground loss at all, if you want to give some other justification for voting on procedurals. If you tell me to vote on it, I&rsquo;ll vote on it, simple as that. It&rsquo;s probably fair to say that I enjoy T more than most judges, so don&rsquo;t be shy to run it (and go for it) in front of me.<br /> <br /> Trichotomy<br /> Unlike a lot of people, I don&rsquo;t hate the trichotomy. If you want to interpret the resolution as a value, or even fact, feel free to do so in front of me. Likewise, if you want to run &ldquo;this should be a value debate&rdquo; on the opp, go ahead. I say this as only a notification that the trichot debate is not an&nbsp;<em>uphill</em>&nbsp;battle when I&rsquo;m judging, in contrast to a lot of judges on the circuit. But you still need to win the argument, of course, and I certainly wouldn&rsquo;t say you have an uphill battle if you want to argue&nbsp;<em>against&nbsp;</em>interpreting the resolution as value/fact either. As with topicality, don&rsquo;t feel like your arguments&nbsp;<em>need&nbsp;</em>to be tied to ground, abuse, predictability, or the like. There are plenty of other interesting arguments out there on both sides and I&rsquo;ll entertain any of them.<br /> <br /> Counterplans and Permutations<br /> Similarly, I don&rsquo;t have any preconceived rules about which counterplans and permutations are &ldquo;legitimate&rdquo; and which aren&rsquo;t. I&rsquo;m fine voting on a PIC if it&rsquo;s well defended, and equally fine voting against it if it&rsquo;s not. By default, I interpret a perm merely as a test of competition, not as an advocacy.<br /> <br /> Kritiks and Critical Arguments<br /> I&rsquo;m open to any type of kritik or critical affirmative. I ran a few K&rsquo;s when I competed, and I was a philosophy major. But before you pull out your Zizek or Heidegger, keep reading: UCLA&rsquo;s major is exclusively analytic philosophy, and it was off of that type of literature that I based my positions. I know nothing about continental philosophy or critical theory. This doesn&rsquo;t mean you should be discouraged from running those arguments, just be sure to explain them clearly--as you should anyway, of course. Again, I don&rsquo;t have any automatic requirements for kritiks (like that they have an alt other than &ldquo;reject&rdquo;).<br /> <br /> Performance<br /> Performance-based arguments are okay, but you might have a harder time winning those in front of me. I&rsquo;ll probably be sympathetic to the other team if your framework is unexplained or unclear. I&rsquo;m not sure this is entirely fair on my part, as I&rsquo;m preferring more &ldquo;traditional&rdquo; arguments over performance, but I don&rsquo;t know how to be fair in this regard. At least everyone is familiar with frameworks, and although it&rsquo;s not ideal to force you at least to partially engage in that system in order to argue against it, that&rsquo;s the best solution I have, especially since debate is adversarial and voting&nbsp;<em>for&nbsp;</em>your performance also means voting&nbsp;<em>against</em>your opponent. But that said, I don&rsquo;t have any objections to performance per se, and if that&rsquo;s what you run normally you should run it in front of me too.<br /> <br /> Criteria and Impact Calculus<br /> Most rounds have a blipped out &ldquo;net benefits&rdquo; criterion which goes conceded. I find that this can lead to problems in rounds when the teams are claiming different types of benefits, e.g. increased utility versus lives saved. The best ways to avoid this problem, I think, are to do a little bit more work on the criteria level by explaining precisely what you mean by the vague, ubiquitous &ldquo;net benefits,&rdquo; and to give really specific impact analysis about why your impacts are weightier than the other team&rsquo;s (where &ldquo;weight&rdquo; = magnitude x probability). Absent a definition, I interpret &ldquo;net benefits&rdquo; to be a crude form of consequentialism, and will prefer utility over other desiderata. This means, e.g., that by default I would vote for a nuclear war impact over an equally probable dehumanization impact. But this won&rsquo;t matter, obviously, if you tell me to look at the round another way. Feel free to run any criterion you wish, and I&rsquo;m (more than) happy to listen to a discussion of non-consequentialist ethics as well. Along those lines, I&rsquo;m not of the opinion that all disadvantages need to end with nuclear war, or even any people dying. Systemic impacts, linear disadvantages, and moral arguments are fine with me. I prefer depth of analysis over blippy high magnitude assertions. You can of course make your risk of magnitude arguments, just don&rsquo;t expect me to make them for you. If you can go from the passage of a bill to the end of all life on Earth in 15 seconds, I don&rsquo;t think your opponent needs to spend more than 15 (well-used) seconds to refute that.<br /> <br /> Contradictory Arguments<br /> I can&rsquo;t really give you my concrete opinion about &ldquo;contradictory&rdquo; arguments in a vacuum. Certainly I think teams can argue contingencies and dilemmas (&ldquo;Plan will have no effect, but even if it does, that will be bad because...&rdquo;). This can, at times, cross into the &ldquo;critical&rdquo; aspects of debate too (I can imagine a team consistently running a certain type of statism K and then an &ldquo;even if&rdquo; state-actor CP). Other times, a critical position pretty clearly prohibits you from doing certain things (here I&rsquo;m thinking linguistic K&rsquo;s). It really depends on the specific arguments in question. But, all these are still up to the debaters in the round. I won&rsquo;t vote down a team for being inconsistent, even with a language K, if the other team doesn&rsquo;t bring it up.<br /> <br /> Offensiveness and Unpopular Arguments<br /> If you are rude or intentionally exclusionary, I will dock your speaker points, but it won&rsquo;t affect the round outcome unless the other team wins that it should. The same goes for comments that are blatantly racist/sexist/etc. However, I don&rsquo;t want you to interpret this as excluding any legitimate policy proposals, and don&rsquo;t be afraid to run &ldquo;unpopular&rdquo; arguments in front of me. I know the circuit is pretty liberal, but that doesn&rsquo;t mean every round needs to be a race to the left--if you&rsquo;re given the &ldquo;conservative&rdquo; side of a topic feel free to argue it straight up. I don&rsquo;t find it inherently&nbsp;<em>offensive</em>, for example,<em>&nbsp;</em>if you want to defend a libertarian position that would allow employers to discriminate on the basis of race, sex, religion, sexual preference, and so on. It&rsquo;s a real position, after all, held by several members of Congress, and I think discussing the merits and disadvantages of it is useful and educational, regardless of what one might personally believe. The same applies for arguments about abortion, gay marriage, immigration, a flat tax, whatever. I wouldn&rsquo;t be involved in switch-side debating if I didn&rsquo;t think exploring all sides of an issue was valuable. I think I&rsquo;m pretty good at leaving my personal political biases completely out of the debate, so don&rsquo;t feel limited to &ldquo;popular&rdquo; positions. Just take care to present the arguments in a respectful, sensitive manner.<br /> <br /> RVI&rsquo;s<br /> As with anything else, I&rsquo;ll listen to them with an open mind. However, I think these should be well-warranted when used. If the MG simply blips one out in two seconds at the bottom of a very average T debate, I don&rsquo;t feel required to vote there. I&rsquo;m not saying it has to be persuasive for me to vote on it, just that you need to provide&nbsp;<em>some</em>&nbsp;reason, and explain that reason. Even then, as long as the other team addresses it, it&rsquo;s probably not going to win you the round. I&rsquo;ve only seen a couple rounds in parli where I personally thought an RVI was justified, and those were unusual circumstances.<br /> <br /> Order of Evaluation<br /> I&rsquo;m wary of giving a specific order in which I&rsquo;ll evaluate positions if left on my own to do so. I don&rsquo;t think I can say, irrespective of content, that T comes before K, or the other way round. Frankly, it depends on what T and what K they are, as well as the on-case arguments. I guess I&rsquo;d say that in most rounds the critical arguments would come before the procedural, which come before the case? But don&rsquo;t hold me to that. I hope, though, that none of my bias matters, and debaters will explain the order in which I should evaluate the different positions (and, I hope that explanation is warranted).<br /> <br /> Labels and Unusual Arguments<br /> As the above might indicate, I think that forcing common labels onto positions can be bad for the round. I don&rsquo;t believe that all the standard labels exhaustively cover all the types of arguments you could make in a round; I used to run a position that was sort of like topicality but also sort of a kritik, and just calling it one or the other was misleading and caused confusion. I also think that this type of pigeonholing is regrettable because it often leads to very shallow, uninteresting theory debates. Instead of saying your opponent&rsquo;s argument is a spec, and then reading generic theory about why specs are bad, I&rsquo;d prefer to see you engage the specific position and tell me why&nbsp;<em>it&nbsp;</em>is bad. More generally, I really appreciate creativity, and enjoy seeing the common assumptions of debate challenged. If you have a new, unusual case or argument that you&rsquo;re hesitant to run in competition just because it&rsquo;s very different, I&rsquo;m probably a good critic to try it out on.<br /> <br /> Misc.<br /> You should call points of order: normally I won&rsquo;t strike new arguments on my own. I don&rsquo;t mind if your extensions are &ldquo;blippy,&rdquo; as I see no need to reiterate every single subpoint that was dropped. Prompting your partner is fine, so long as they actually say the argument.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> I&rsquo;m missing school, work, and my wife to be at this tournament. I remain involved in the activity because I believe it&rsquo;s incredibly valuable and I want to see it flourish. I enjoy judging, but I don&rsquo;t think I&rsquo;m entitled to have you entertain me. Instead, in a very real sense, I&rsquo;m working for you: I&rsquo;ve been charged with adjudicating the round, and I take that role very seriously. I aspire to be an excellent critic, the kind that I loved having in the back of the room as a competitor. You have my undivided attention in the round, and I will do my very best to decide it in a way that is fair and pursuant to the principles described above. Please feel welcome to ask me about my RFD, and push me on it if you disagree. I&rsquo;m totally open to being wrong (and I hope you are too). I think it&rsquo;s much more productive and in line with the educational nature of this activity if we talk about our differing views rather than just walk away and dismiss the other as incorrect.<br /> <br /> Have fun. Be yourself. It&rsquo;s your round, not mine.</p>


Matthew Swanson - Palomar

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Michael Middleton - Utah

<p>Michael Middleton</p> <p>Judging Philosophy</p> <p><strong>A Quotation:</strong></p> <p>&ldquo;The present situation is highly discouraging&rdquo; &ndash;Gilles Deleuze &amp; Felix Guattari</p> <p><strong>A Haiku:</strong></p> <p>Debate is Awesome</p> <p>Judging Makes Me Cry Softly</p> <p>Do I weep in vain?</p> <p><strong>Some things to consider (when debating in front of me):</strong></p> <p>10.&nbsp; I DO NOT support speed as a tool of exclusion</p> <p>9.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I DO NOT like deciding for myself what is the most important thing in the round or how to evaluate the competing arguments; You should do this for me.&nbsp; You will like it less if you don&rsquo;t. On the other hand, I will like it more.</p> <p>8.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I DO like well-structured debates. I also like interesting structures.</p> <p>7.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I DO like creative interpretations; I DO NOT like when you don&rsquo;t explain/provide a rationale for why I your interpretation makes for a productive/rewarding/interesting/good debate.</p> <p>6.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I DO NOT like nor understand potential abuse arguments; I DO like and reward teams that demonstrate compellingly that the quality of the debate has been compromised by an interpretive choice made by the other team.</p> <p>5.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I DO NOT vote for any given argument or against any given type of argument.&nbsp; Run whatever strategy you like; Be clear about your strategy.</p> <p>4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am a participant in the round also.&nbsp; While I make my best effort to vote on who is winning and losing the debate based on the arguments, I use speaker points to evaluate and highlight both excellent and poor behaviors, i.e. if you create a hostile environment, you get massively low speaker points.</p> <p>3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jargon does not equal argument. Nor does it equal a good time.</p> <p>2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cross-application does not equal new argument. It doesn&rsquo;t really equal anything.</p> <p>1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Debate is not life.&nbsp; Losing a ballot will not steal your humanity.&nbsp; I tend to prefer rounds that demonstrate everyone in the room knows this.</p> <p>0. Have Fun</p>


Neil Casey - Pepperdine

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p>My judging philosophy is fairly simple. I prefer well reasoned and logical arguments that are at least somewhat consistent with the original purpose of Parli debate, pretending to be legislators discussing legislation. Because of this, I tend to prefer policy arguments with concrete, easy-to-see real-world impacts over other types of argument, particularly procedurals.&nbsp;</p> <p>Because I competed in a slightly different form of debate for most of my collegiate career, you should also generally assume that I am <strong>not</strong> familiar with the majority of arcane parli jargon and theory, and explain anything you use. I am much better versed in current events and political/policy discussions, and I do not care for lazy assertions or misrepresentations in rounds, so do everything you can in the limited time you have available to avoid these sorts of errors, and to call out your opponents for making them.&nbsp;</p> <p>Because of my background, I also tend to dislike speed. I will always go for the qualitatively better case over one that merely contains a greater number of arguments. Arguments that are merely tag lines containing a few assertions will receive very little weight from me.&nbsp; I will not penalize competitors simply for speaking quickly on my ballot, but I will almost certainly miss or give little weight to many of your arguments, so spread at your own risk.&nbsp;</p> <p>I have voted for criticisms many times in the past, but generally because the team on the receiving end of the critique was unable to respond effectively.&nbsp; The most important part of any criticism is the alternative, specifically one that envisions the world of the team running the criticism.&nbsp; Simply saying &quot;Reject the opposition&quot; is not an alternative. If you do run a K, be prepared to establish that your opponents&#39; plan will have real and serious costs that outweigh any benefits the plan may create. Similarly RVIs need to be serious, and well-reasoned. If you think something is important enough to make me reject your opponents, take the time to convince me of the importance.</p> <p>&nbsp;All that being said, I also believe that debate is about the competitors, not the judges, so I will do my absolute best to not bring my personal preferences and beliefs into my decisions. If you can debate better than your opponents and convince me by using an argument that I personally dislike, I will still vote for you.&nbsp;</p>


Nick Russell - Long Beach

<p><strong>Judge Philosophy for Nick Russell</strong></p> <p><strong>DOF @ CSU, Long Beach</strong></p> <p>Years in Debate: 20</p> <p>Rounds Judged this Year: not many</p> <p>Months without a Weekend: 1.5</p> <p>I view debate as a laboratory for democracy, by which I mean that debate provides an opportunity for students to become agents of positive social transformation. As such, my view is that debate should be a forum for debaters to develop a voice to express the arguments about which you are passionate; it&rsquo;s your opportunity to positively transform society. And it&rsquo;s not my place to tell you how to do that (e.g., run a project, a plan, or a pomo).</p> <p>That being said, I&rsquo;m convinced that in order to transform publics, you must persuade your audience. And there are things that make arguments and debaters more or less persuasive as I audience them.</p> <ol> <li>I think that human beings are different from one another. And, for this whole democratic experiment to succeed, I think we need to be respectful of differences. I may be wrong and you may be right, but for debate to work, there has to be space for a dialogic exchange. And that means respect. I loathe hostility and am uncomfortable with aggression, so please find a way to make the debate friendly.</li> <li>I teach argumentation, so my brain has been socialized to understand arguments in a relatively formal sense: e.g., a claim supported with evidence&mdash;connected with a warrant. Please don&rsquo;t read this as a normative endorsement of the Toulmin model. Instead, it&rsquo;s a descriptive claim of the way that I have learned to think through my experience in debate and my livelihood teaching Introduction to Argument classes.</li> <li>While I enjoy reading critical theory and cultural studies, my brain is quicker to make sense of things that are tangible, concrete, and explained using examples. For critical teams, this means you ought to describe how your argument plays out in the world of the plan; for orthodox teams, this means you need to describe how the plan solves your harms (even if this is internal to an advantage); and for project teams it means explaining how your argument will concretely and meaningfully cause change.</li> </ol> <p>The bottom line is this: you are an active agent of social transformation. You should actualization that agency for positive social change&mdash;and not for social domination.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>


Phil tschirhart - CMU

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Rachelle Kamrath - UNK

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Raquel Clark - X Hired

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Reyna Velarde - CMC

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Reyna Velarde - X Hired

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Rolland Petrello - Moorpark

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Roxan Arntson - Glendale CC


Roxanne Tuscany - Grossmont

<p>~~I have been coaching and judging Parliamentary Debate for approximately 15 years, since it became popular in Southern California.&nbsp; I started coaching IPDA last year, but have not judged it this year.&nbsp; I have also coached and judged British Parli in China.</p> <p><br /> As far as Parli is concerned, I have a lot of issues, so here goes: <br /> Parliamentary debate is and has been a &quot;communication&quot; event. We are at a speech/debate tournament. I expect communication skills to be used as effectively as possible, and that we are following our disciplines&#39; research that supports first impressions and good communication to be effective persuasive methods.&nbsp; Therefore, stand when speaking.&nbsp; When your partner is speaking, only discretely pass a note to them.&nbsp; Never, speak for them.&nbsp; I would also like to have you stand for Points of Information, and politely call out, Point of Information.&nbsp; If you raise your hand, the speaker many times cannot see you. It is not &quot;rude&quot; to interrupt the speaker, it is part of parliamentary debate guidelines.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /> The debaters in the round, should be telling me, &quot;what the most important criteria is in the debate&quot;.&nbsp; I am listening and analyzing your debate according to what you, &quot;the debaters&quot;, tell me what is important.&nbsp; Therefore, your criteria for the debate should be very clear, and you should be reminding me throughout the debate why I should vote for your team.<br /> I would like to say that I am open to all positions/arguments and strategies. However, due to the current trends in parli debate, it probably isn&#39;t true for me.&nbsp; What I don&#39;t like is whatever the current &quot;trend&quot; is.&nbsp; What I mean by that, is that we see trends and for a year or two everyone follows that style.&nbsp;<br /> I teach argumentation, and I know that there ARE 3 types of resolutions:&nbsp; FACT, VALUE, AND POLICY. If you pick a resolution that is a fact resolution, it should be run that way, etc.&nbsp; There are fact and value resolutions.&nbsp; They may be more challenging, but they exist. Of course, you can argue that the team has incorrectly identified what type of resolution it is.&nbsp; That is part of the debate.<br /> Also, there will be metaphors in these debates, and they could be in the form of a fact/value or policy. You need to identify this in your debate.&nbsp;&nbsp; In a policy round, I do prefer stock issues format, rather than the current trend of comparative advantage.<br /> I also expect a complete plan. For the opposition, I expect you to listen to the affirmative case, and argue against their positions as directly as possible, rather than come in with your own case, that has nothing to do with what the government case is arguing.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /> Speed has no place in parliamentary debate.&nbsp; For me, it has nothing to do with your judge being able to &quot;flow&quot; the debate.&nbsp; It has to do with you being a competent communicator, in the real world.&nbsp; If you can talk eloquently, with good enunciation skills, then I&#39;m fine with you talking relatively fast, without it being a problem.&nbsp; I don&#39;t believe a judge should have to yell out: &quot;clear&quot;.&nbsp; An audience should not have to tell the speaker, that we can&#39;t understand you.&nbsp; Jargon should be used sparingly.&nbsp; We are at a national tournament, where not every region uses the same jargon.&nbsp; Therefore, don&#39;t assume we know your jargon.&nbsp; Quickly, briefly explain your terms.<br /> Having said all this, you will have your own beliefs about me, as a judge.&nbsp; I would like you to know that I love parliamentary debate, and have been judging for as long as it has existed in the western states.&nbsp; I love to hear real world issues debated directly in front of me.&nbsp; I hope you are up to this incredible experience and challenge of arguing real issues.&nbsp; Enjoy!<br /> &nbsp;</p>


Ryan Morris - Palomar


Sarah Colome - Wheaton


Sherris Minor - Palomar

<p> &nbsp;</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <font size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font face="Cambria" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">I would consider myself a flow critic I will listen to any round you would prefer to have.&nbsp;<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</span>Unless told otherwise I will default to a net benefits paradigm.&nbsp;<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</span>I tend to not vote for fact or value debate and overall I prefer policy because I think the former encourage judge intervention.<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>I also do not find the &ldquo;trichotomy&rdquo; of debate particularly compelling unless it is used to justify policy debate.<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: times; font-size: 10pt; "><o:p style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "></o:p></span></font></font></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <o:p style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">Rate of delivery doesn&rsquo;t really matter, most of the time I can keep up with the arguments coming from the speaker. I will yell slow down if it does become to much for me to handle. I haven&rsquo;t had to do that yet this year. Clarity is a separate issue for me. This goes for both speaking and what is said. If I cant hear you because you are mumbling and I am missing things on my flow I will say clear.<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>If you are saying a ton of tag lines without warrants you will not win my ballot. The use of speed should not preclude you from making an actual argument. I shouldn&rsquo;t have to wait until the LOR/ PMR to know how your arguments function.</font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <o:p style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <font size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font face="Cambria" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">Procedurals are fine to run in front of me, but I do not vote on potential abuse. I don&rsquo;t tend to vote on RVI&rsquo;s especially if the justification for it on T is &ldquo;time suck they abused us.&rdquo;&nbsp;<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</span></font></font></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <o:p style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">Condo, Overall, I believe all arguments in debate are conditional you choose to go for the ones you are winning and not go for the ones you are losing. If you want to run condo bad and impact out why their conditional cp/ alt is detrimental to the round go for it. I think it is all part of strategy.</font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <o:p style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">I think critical discussions are great within the context of debate and I will always listen to them. That being said you need to justify your framework for evaluating the round, and tell me how I vote using this framework.</font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <o:p style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">CP/perm theory is anything goes until someone tells me why it is not ok. You need to explain your theory to me don&rsquo;t just expect me to know what your perm means. Multiple perms are ok. I believe both perms and CPs should have a text. You should also explain how your perm functions in the context of the round.</font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <o:p style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" face="Cambria" size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "> <font size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font face="Cambria" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">Overall, if you do the work you should be able to win my ballot. I don&rsquo;t care what you run (for the most part).<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>I expect that your k, ad, disad has impacts and I want you to tell me how I weight them at the end of the round. Don&rsquo;t be afraid to collapse to arguments you are winning, and be clear in what your case is and how it functions in the round.&nbsp;<span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">&nbsp;</span></font></font></font></p> <div> <font size="3" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font color="#000000" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><font face="Cambria" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><span style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; "><br /> </span></font></font></font></div>


Steve Rohr - Rio


Steve Woods - WWU

<p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Debate Background:</strong></p> <p>14 years&nbsp;at WWU</p> <p>Coaching since 1987 overall (K-State, Florida State, Vermont, Wm. Jewell)</p> <p>Overview:</p> <p>I tend to default to a policy maker framework.&nbsp;However, I am open to a variety of paradigms if explicitly introduced and supported in the debate.&nbsp; As such, I do NOT automatically dismiss an argument based on its &quot;name&quot; (DA or Kritik for example), BUT&nbsp;I do put a premium on how well the argument fits the context of the round.&nbsp; Often, policy arguments are incredibly generic and poorly linked to the PMC, and critical approaches may be well linked and appropriate (and vice versa).&nbsp; So, concentrate on the substance of the issues more than the &quot;type&quot; of the argument.&nbsp; I can tolerate high rates of delivery, but clarity is your responsibility. I also find that high rates of delivery are a cover for a lack of strategy rather than a strategy.&nbsp; If you go fast, have a reason.&nbsp;</p> <p>Specifics:</p> <p>Topicality--I tend to give Govt extensive leeway on topicality.</p> <p>Proceduerals/Spec arguments--must be more than plan flaw issues and show real in round abuse.</p> <p>Solvency--I do weigh case versus off case, so Solvency is a part of the overall decision factor.&nbsp; While it may be tough to &quot;win&quot; on solvency presses and mitigation, good case debate is useful to set up the link directions for the off case arguments/case turns.</p> <p>Disadvantages--HAVE TO BE LINKED to Plan text.&nbsp; Generic positions tend to get weighed less likely.</p> <p>Counterplans--Issues of competition and permutations neeed to be clear.&nbsp; I don&#39;t need perm &quot;standards&quot; and the like, but clear delineation between the policy options is required.</p> <p>Critical--Acceptable if well linked and relevant.&nbsp; I tend not to be impressed by appeals to philosophical authority.&nbsp; Team introducing has an obligation to make argument understandable.</p> <p>How to get High Points:</p> <p>Be polite and collegial to your opponents.&nbsp; Use clear structure (labeling and signposting).&nbsp; Have a good strategy and display round awareness.&nbsp; Generally strong substance is more rewarded than speaking performance.&nbsp; However, the combination of both is appreciated :)&nbsp; Good rebuttals and clear strategic choices that make the RFD your work instead of one I have to concoct will help you.&nbsp; Humor and good will are always appreciated as well.</p> <p>Strike or No Strike?</p> <p>I feel that I am pretty tolerant of a variety of styles and approaches.&nbsp; I have a policy background but have coached parli for 13 years, so I have seen a lot of different styles and approaches,&nbsp; I try to be tabula rasa to the extent both teams seem to be in agreement for the paradigm for the round--but do reserve the right to be a &quot;critic of argument&quot; when issues are left unresolved by the debaters,&nbsp;but I do try to limit intervention in those cases to a bare minimum.</p>


Steven Farias - SIU

<p>Steven Kalani Farias - Southern Illinois University, Carbondale</p> <p><strong>TLDR Version:</strong> I am okay with whatever you choose to read in the debate, I care more about your justifications and what you as the debaters decide in round; however, theory I generally have a high threshold for voting on except CONDO Bad, in which case the threshold is lower. CPs/Alts are generally good ideas because I believe affirmatives usually solve harms in the world and permutations are not advocacies. Finally, pet peeve but I rule on points of order when I can. I generally think it is educational and important for the LOR/PMR strategy to know if I think an argument is new or not. I protect the block as well, but if you call a point of order I will always have an answer (not well taken/well taken/under consideration) so please do not just call it and then agree its automatically under consideration.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Section 1: General Information-</strong></p> <p>While I thoroughly enjoy in-depth critical and/or hegemony debates, ultimately, the arguments you want to make are the arguments I expect you to defend and WEIGH. I often find myself less compelled by nuclear war these days when the topic is about education, a singular SCOTUS decision, immigration, etc. BE RESOURCEFUL WITH YOUR IMPACTS- ethnic conflict, mass exodus, refugee camps, poverty, and many more things could all occur as a result of/in a world without the plan. I think debaters would be much better served trying to win my ballot with topically intuitive impact scenarios rather than racing to nuclear war, ESPECIALLY IF PROBABILITY MEANS ANYTHING BESIDES A DROPPED, BLIPPED INTERNAL LINK&mdash;which I think it does.</p> <p>This leads me to other general considerations: unwarranted blips, weighing, etiquette, and educational stances in debate.</p> <p><strong>On blips-</strong> My stance is on nerd-benefits but I&rsquo;ll make it brief here- I do my best to keep up with the debate and flow every argument. However, I also will not stress if your 5 uniqueness blips don&rsquo;t ALL get on my flow. When I debated I remembered warrants rather than write them and although I am better at getting them as a judge, I am unafraid to miss them and just say &ldquo;I didn&rsquo;t get that&rdquo;. So please do your best to use words like &ldquo;because&rdquo; followed by a strong logical basis for your claim and I will do my best to follow every argument. Also, if you stress your tag I will be able to follow your warrants more too.</p> <p><strong>On weighing-</strong> I like impact stories that have multiple scenarios, however magnitude seems to have taken de- facto prioritization in debates. PLEASE USE TIMEFRAME (including cyclical and systemic versus immediate impacts) AND PROBABILITY (including most likely, highest chance be systemic versus one time, least likely). Overall, I think that the two biggest problems I have in judging debates is that there are often many unwarranted claims that end up becoming key issues in a debate round and there seems to be a lack of comparison sometimes at the impact level. Please explain to me 1) why your argument is true and 2) why YOUR impact is more important than THEIR impact. That prevents me from having to do any work. If you have specific questions on positions see below.</p> <p><strong>On Etiquette:</strong> <em>1) IMPORTANT:</em> Do not lie in your rounds (like uniqueness on politics!). It is poor form and makes me look stupid for trusting the information debaters use in round to discuss real world issues. If I discover you lying to me in a round, I will let you know but should probably not be a high pref in the future for you. <em>2) IMPORTANT:</em> Same goes for cursing, I don&rsquo;t think it is necessary and while it will not lose any round in front of me (as lying might in the future rounds) I would appreciate if you expanded your suasory vocabulary passed curse words. <em>3)</em> Try your best to not exclude another team in the round. This does not mean debate easier, it simply means that there is no need blitzing the 2AC if the LOC CLEARLY just cannot keep up, and feel free to sit down instead of beating a dead horse. I will probably give more speaker points.</p> <p><strong>On educational stances in debate-</strong> I will do my best to not vote for things I think would be uneducational in debate. Let me give you an example of what I mean-</p> <ol> <li>A.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LO reads politics disad with link that plan prevents passage</li> <li>B.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;MG reads impact turns about why bill is bad</li> <li>C.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;MO calls impact turns status quo</li> </ol> <p>I will not consider MO arguments in such a situation good enough defense. To vote against the plan in this round, I would have to assume that the plan links to politics thus preventing the bill from passing and thus being a good idea because even if the bill is status quo, plan prevents extension of status quo. To vote against the plan for such a reason would be uneducational because of the way the arguments interact. I have similar problems voting for link turns that do not have uniqueness. I do not automatically default to them as terminal link defense. If said arguments are not characterized as defense and not nuanced, I assume the link can only go in one direction and your link turn is, at best, mitigation but not a complete link take out. I.E - I do not automatically assume the uniqueness overwhelms the link if you have non-unique link turns. If you have specific questions about other scenarios, please ask.</p> <p><strong>Section 2: Specific Arguments</strong></p> <p><strong>&ldquo;The K&rdquo;-</strong> I do not mind critical affirmatives but be prepared to defend topicality with more than just generic links back to the K. Moreover, I feel that this can even be avoided if the affirmative team simply frames the critical arguments they are going to make while still offering, at the very least, the resolution as a policy text for the opposition. If you are reading a project, please be prepared to defend and priotize it as an issue over all other possible issues. For negative teams, I think that K&rsquo;s without alternatives are just non-unique disads. I think that reject and embrace are not alternatives in and of themselves, I must reject or embrace something and then you must explain how that solves. In general, I believe that there must be some discussion of the ballot and why it is important for your argument. For performance based arguments, please explain to me how to evaluate the performance and how I should vote and what voting for it means or I am likely to intervene in a way you are unhappy with. Also, please do not make myself or your competitors uncomfortable. If they ask you to stop your position because it emotionally disturbs them, please listen. I am not unabashed to vote against you if you do not. I believe you should be able to run your argument, but not at the expense of others&rsquo; engagement with the activity. I will consider your narrative or performance actually read even if you stop or at the least shorten and synthesize it. Finally, I also consider all speech acts as performative in some ways so please justify this SPECIFIC performance.</p> <p><strong>Topicality/Theory-&nbsp;</strong>I tend to see topicality in terms of abuse. I honestly believe there must be proven abuse in round if you are going to argue about ground and fairness, however I will vote on unanswered standards. I also believe that it is a game of competing interpretations in so far as I believe that both teams must defend an interpretation in order for T to become a wash. Caveat- I think that the neg allows the aff to have two interpretations (context of case and CI) and negative teams should remember that a contextual definition IS A DEFINITION and I consider multiple, contradictory interpretations from an affirmative as potentially abusive. Still, I have a very high threshold. As for FX, I tend to think FX is easily answered but too often dropped. Answer it and it shouldn&rsquo;t matter. On Extra: Ditto here. Answer it and it shouldn&rsquo;t matter.</p> <p><strong>In terms of theory</strong>, I evaluate theory based on interpretations and I think more specific and precise interpretations are better. I also think theory is generally just a good strategic idea. However, I will only do what you tell me to do: i.e.- reject the argument v. reject the team. I also do not vote for theory immediately even if your position (read: multiple conditional advocacies, a conditional advocacy, usage of the f-word) is a position I generally disagree with. You will have to go for the argument, answer the other teams responses, and outweigh their theoretical arguments by prioritizing the arguments. Yes, I have a lower threshold on conditionality than most other judges, but I do not reject you just because you are conditional. The other team must do the things above to win my ballot on theory.</p> <p><strong>Counterplans-</strong> CP&rsquo;s are the best strategy, IMHO, for any neg team (or at least some alternative advocacy). It is the best way to force an affirmative to defend their case. PICs, Consult, Conditions, etc. whatever you want to run I am okay with. I do not think that &ldquo;We Bite Less&rdquo; is a compelling argument, just do not link to your own disad and we should be fine. In terms of perms, I am okay with perms, but if you do not in the end prove that it is preferential to the plan or cp, then I will simply view it as an argument not used. This means if you go for the perm in the PMR, it must be as a reason the CP should be rejected as an offensive voting position. Finally, CPs perms are not advocacies- it is merely to demonstrate the ability for both plans to happen at the same time, and then the government team should offer reasons the perm would solve the disads or be better than the CP uniquely. K perms can be advocacies, particularly if the Alt. is a floating PIC, but it needs to be explained, with a text, how the permutation solves the residual links.</p> <p><strong>Evaluating rounds-</strong> I evaluate rounds as a PMR. That means to me that I first look to see if the affirmative has lost a position that should lose them the round (T&rsquo;s and Specs). Then I look for counter advocacies and weigh competing advocacies (K&rsquo;s and Alts or CP&rsquo;s and Disads). Finally, I look to see if the affirmative has won their case and if the impacts of the case outweigh the off case. If you are really asking how I weigh after the explanation in the general information, then you more than likely have a specific impact calculus you want to know how I would consider. Feel free to ask me direct questions before the round or at any other time during the tournament. I do not mind clarifying. Also, if you want to email me, feel free (steven.farias11@gmail.com). If you have any questions about this or anything I did not mention, feel free to ask me any time. Thanks.</p>


Tara Norris - UCLA


Tiffani Smith - CSUF

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Tim Milosch - Biola


Tom Proprofsky - IVC


Tyler Rising - NAU

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Vaness Estrella - Grossmont

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Vince Sainz - Rio


Vivian Amezcua - Concordia-CA

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Whitney Hart - Pacific

<p> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves>false</w:TrackMoves> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing>18 pt</w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing> <w:DrawingGridVerticalSpacing>18 pt</w:DrawingGridVerticalSpacing> <w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery>0</w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery> <w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery>0</w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> <w:DontAutofitConstrainedTables/> <w:DontVertAlignInTxbx/> </w:Compatibility> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="276"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0in; mso-para-margin-right:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0in; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--><!--StartFragment--></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Experience:</b> I have been around some form of debate since 2003. I debated policy in high school for two years; in college, I debated LD four years and parli for a semester at Missouri Southern State University. And I&rsquo;ve been coaching/judging in some capacity since 2009.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>In general, run whatever you want.</b> As long you as explain how the position accesses my ballot, I will vote on it. Debate is a game. Be strategic to win. The round is yours and you should make it your own. The following information is about my general judging philosophy, but I am willing to suspend my ow<a name="_GoBack"></a>n preconceived notions to vote where the debaters tell me to vote. These are my defaults.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Please do impact calculus.</b> I have found myself having to weigh issues in such a way that it gives me a headache, so do it for me to make my decision easy. I tell debaters to &ldquo;write my ballot for me.&rdquo; What I mean by that is do sophisticated comparative analysis and explain exactly what I should vote on and why and you will probably come out ahead. Impact calculus does not necessarily mean that your argument &ldquo;outweighs&rdquo; in a traditional sense of the word. But each argument you make in the debate round should serve a purpose and you should make that purpose explicit to me.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> On a related note, I am really tired of hearing ridiculous impact scenarios without internal links. If your impact is global nuclear war, tell me how you get there in a way that actually makes sense. Too often, positions are much like fat bottom girls (bottom/impact heavy and not link heavy) &hellip; and while they do make the rockin&rsquo; debate world go &lsquo;round, they give me a headache. I am more likely to vote on probability than magnitude if you neglect your internal links. And do not tell me something is dehumanization without explaining HOW it is dehumanizing. An individual not getting paid what they deserve is not dehumanization.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Speaker points:</b> I award these based on a combination of how well you present yourself and the quality of your arguments. If you are excessively rude, your speaker points will reflect that. If you argue with me about a decision I have made, expect to see 1 speaker point on your ballot (yes, that&rsquo;s o-n-e). Also&mdash;do not prompt your partner. This annoys me beyond all else. They are your partner. You should trust them. If you must help them, pass them a note. If you have to tell them what they should say every time they start a sentence, you need a new partner or you need to stop being such a control freak. I will tank your speaker points for this. Also, if the person who is giving the speech doesn&rsquo;t say it, I don&rsquo;t flow it.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Speed:</b> I do not care how quickly you speak. I will keep up. I really love listening to someone who is fast and articulate. As long as you do not sacrifice clarity to speed, we will be fine. If you are gasping for air and incomprehensible, your speaker points will suffer. I want a good, substantive debate. Speed should not be used to exclude others from the round, but should be used to enhance the quality of the debate by allowing debaters to a greater number of warranted arguments.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Procedurals:</b> I love debates about debate. Specification arguments regarding funding, enforcement, agent, etc. are great, but I prefer they be resolution-specific and the negative must explain how that particular specification is important. It&rsquo;s difficult to convince me that the resolution sets a precedent for what the plan text should include since everyone has only known about it for about 20 minutes, so be prepared for me to be empathetic to a &ldquo;normal means&rdquo; response. I default to competing interpretations, but part of the standards debate should probably be ground arguments.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Topicality:</b> I love topicality debates and I view topicality as an issue of competing interpretations. Don&rsquo;t blip out voters. I don&rsquo;t know why I would vote on &ldquo;fairness and education.&rdquo; I have never heard a compelling RVI. I do not really know what it means to be &ldquo;reasonably topical&rdquo; because I have only heard it articulated in a way that wasn&rsquo;t totally asinine once. The opposition can just as easily come up with an arbitrary interpretation of the resolution and use topicality to exclude the government as the government can arbitrarily demonstrate the resolution with their case to exclude the opposition.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Criticisms:</b> I was not a K debater, but that does not mean I have not voted for them. However, a clearly articulated alternative is a must. To win the K in front of me, you have to win the framework and the alternative. Do not assume that I know the same things you do about what your specific author says. Explain the thesis of their argument to me and explain why your criticism accesses my ballot. This is largely neglected. What role does my ballot serve? This needs to be explicit.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> Critical affirmatives: I will listen to them, but I will also listen to arguments about why your critical affirmative isn&rsquo;t topical.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Counterplans:</b> are conditional unless otherwise specified. Counterplans should be held to the same standards of solvency as the affirmative.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>General information:</b> When the PMR or LOR makes a new argument, I cross through it on my flow, whether you call the point of order or not. Call points of order if you&rsquo;d like; they are a useful check against your opponent and a tool only available to parli debaters. But if you&rsquo;re going to call a point of order, <i>explain</i> why your opponent&rsquo;s argument is new. Also, if you&rsquo;re going to respond to points of order, <i>explain</i> why it&rsquo;s not new with direct reference to the previous argument (speech where the argument was originally made, how it was phrased, etc.) so I know what you are talking about and can rule accordingly. But I don&rsquo;t evaluate new arguments.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <b>I don&rsquo;t believe in shadow extensions.</b> If you are the LO and you make an argument in the LOC and your MO does not extend it, an LOR extension is a new argument to me. Same thing goes for PMs and MGs.</p> <!--EndFragment-->


Willie Washington - CSUF

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